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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Brake fluid flush ahead of Track day suggestions

Super Blue / Motul / AP fluid are the options I'm looking at for my next Brake fluid flush in 2weeks. Car is stock except for flash/exhaust and doing my first track day 6-26 Infineon raceway. So getting the fluids changed ahead of time.

Considering I'm driving mostly street, stock brake pads/suspension what fluid would you sugest?

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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Etchhead
Super Blue / Motul / AP fluid are the options I'm looking at for my next Brake fluid flush in 2weeks. Car is stock except for flash/exhaust and doing my first track day 6-26 Infineon raceway. So getting the fluids changed ahead of time.

Considering I'm driving mostly street, stock brake pads/suspension what fluid would you sugest?

Thanks-
I have used ATE Super Blue for years and have never had an issue with it.. Ran it in my 944 Turbo with 15" Brembo Big Red Race setup, also in my Corvette ZO6... Quite obviously, I now run it in my GT2 with PCCB's and Pagid/Porsche Motorsports Greens (P50's)... One thing I like is that it comes in blue and gold colors, so you know when you have completely flushed all the fluid if you alternate between the colors.

I have tried Motul and it also worked well....
 

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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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PFC for pads. Endless oil's good too, same as AP i think.
 
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Ness
PFC for pads. Endless oil's good too, same as AP i think.
Snap, same setup as me..

You can add Motul's fluids to that list also. Any of the higher temp fluids will make a significant safety difference, if you are flushing yourself switching to a blue one will make it easier to know when the flush is complete.

If you stick to your street pads for this event just make sure they are fairly fresh, they will wear like crazy if you brake hard. I switch out to PFC 97's (use to use Pagid Yellows) for the track, toss the pads when they reach 4mm of materiel thickness.
 
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i've had great luck with regular prestone brake fluid from autozone in a pinch. it actually has a slightly higher dry boiling point than ATE, and you don't need to worry about wet BP if you change a couple times a year.

I'm sure someone will chime in with "i wouldn't put prestone in my Poursha," but I guarantee that someone has fewer track miles on ATE than I do on prestone.

I'm not slamming ATE, it's great fluid.
 

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Graham, how often do you have to bleed your brakes on the GT2 using Superblue?
 
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We have great success with Motul RBF 660
 
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How many of you guys are running braided stainless brake lines vs. stock? is there much difference? can you feel the pedal a little tighter?
 
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Originally Posted by landjet
Graham, how often do you have to bleed your brakes on the GT2 using Superblue?
I have the brakes THOROUGHLY (and I mean THOROUGHLY) bled 4 times a year... I used to do it before every Track Day, but it turned out that it didn't need it that often.

I hammer the brakes on my Car now. At first, I was worried about the Internet rumors regarding PCCB's, but after putting 14 hard track days on the brakes now, I have no qualms and am using them like I used to use my 15" Racing Red Brembos on my 944 Turbo.. The difference is that I don't get cracks in the PCCB's and I am getting better pad life as well... I am on my second set of P50's (Porsche Motorsports/Pagid Greens)..

So far, so good.

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Originally Posted by 2muchtime
How many of you guys are running braided stainless brake lines vs. stock? is there much difference? can you feel the pedal a little tighter?
I am running SS lines and they definitely help.. They stop the "swelling" of standard rubber type hoses and provide a more solid pedal.. SS Brake lines are the FIRST thing I do to EVERY vehicle I own. On Motorcycles, it's especially important, as I had complete and total brake failure on my Suzuki GSXR 1100 (1992) after a particularly spirited run up Mt Hamilton.. It was down to the crap stock brake hoses.


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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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We have had good luck with RBF 600 in our Porsches but just swapped to Castrol SRF to see how it works..

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Is price a factor? I would not spend $48 on a bottle of SRF unless I am a track rat

I found a local shop that sells ATE Superblue and Motul RBF600 for about $17 a liter. They can be hard to find so to me it's more about availability if you are in a hurry. Tirerack seems to have good deal if you can wait 3 days.

FYI - ATE has superblue and a regular gold color version if you want to switch back and forth.
 
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Is price a factor? I would not spend $48 on a bottle of SRF unless I am a track rat

I found a local shop that sells ATE Superblue and Motul RBF600 for about $17 a liter. They can be hard to find so to me it's more about availability if you are in a hurry. Tirerack seems to have good deal if you can wait 3 days.

FYI - ATE has superblue and a regular gold color version if you want to switch back and forth.
I always find it funny though when people say SRF is too expensive.. We sell RBF 600 for 17 a liter if you need.. however i dont find in the scheme of things that 75.00 for brake fluid which has been known to be called the BEST FLUID you can buy would be too expensive for me to use in my Porsche..

I have read DE instructors stating " I bleed my Brakes 1x per year with SRF ".. Thats why i am curious to try it.. Id like to know how long i can go before needing to bleed..

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That's why I use SRF. This is my third season and I change it once a year before track season and never bleed the brakes ever. I've never had brake fade or other problems. To me it's a no-brainer. Some guys in my club are constantly bleeding their brakes with Superblue. They think they are saving money but by the end of the season they have used so many bottles of the stuff that the SRF is actually cheaper.
 
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Originally Posted by landjet
That's why I use SRF. This is my third season and I change it once a year before track season and never bleed the brakes ever. I've never had brake fade or other problems. To me it's a no-brainer. Some guys in my club are constantly bleeding their brakes with Superblue. They think they are saving money but by the end of the season they have used so many bottles of the stuff that the SRF is actually cheaper.
I hate to take my HRE wheels on and off on my street car so thats why i decided to give the SRF a try as well.. I have read many cases that people dont bleed but 1x per year.. I figured ok depends on driving style but when PCA DE Instructors are doing it 1x a yr as well the stuff must be working..

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