+1 for Markski. I'm running his ski 850 kit and I'm very happy with it. If you're considering this much power I would steer clear of a triptronic car.

 

Oh, meth...that changes everything, then yes, you can definitely make 700whp.

You are going to need to rebuild your tranny...you can start w/ the upgraded stall converter, but that won't last for long.

Here is what I recommend: By the time you build the tranny, motor, etc...and it is a very very slippery slope once you get started and the bills will add up past $100K very quickly, why don't you just get the new PDK turbo.

With a tune chip it will run even with a 600 plus whp 6speed or auto. You can break into the 10's with a car that will be reliable and a total pleasure in traffic.

That is what I would

 

i answered this earlier but ill do it again,
10k in labor 100hrs,
3k for the cheap version of the tools to accomplish this.
just under 3k for rods,
2500-5500 for pistons depending on stock size or 3.8 kit,
around 3k in misc gaskets and such
oil pump is 800-1500$ for the nice gt3 pump.
main bearings and IMS bearings about 1k
upgraded head studs 800-2k depending on choice and machine work
o ring head 1800-3.5k
ported head 3500 (not including head tear down)
1k for valve springs
this is stock valves no valve guide work
3500 for reground cams 7k for new ones

easy to add up quickly when bill starts at 10k for labor.

 

All the 996 era autos I have run shifted slowly. Yes one can be good if you spend enough money (go the the Mercedes SL 55 BS is one good choice, but not cheap). Like I said, I would just get the new PDK.

Do you have any proof of how fast your car is? I don't see any #'s but maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

A vid of you running a proven fast car would also suffice.

 

997 awd system is completely different and much better, the 996 system is like an add on system is was not designed as the heart of the drivtrain it was osrt of bastardized onto the setup.

 

Being in Europe I imagine it would be much more expensive...assuming there was no strike

 

One thing that has not been fully discussed in this thread is the fact that yes, the Metzger motor is the last a a kind....a true racing motor that just happened to be mass produced. With the right tuning and gas, yes, it will make 700 whp very reliably.

It is a truly remarkable piece of engineering, and that is why I have no desire to crack one. However the 996's, IMO, were made for a 6 speed....get a good triple carbon clutch (like a Tilton or ATS) and you will have a car that is bulletproof.

 

You will not need to build the motor for the AWHP you are looking to make. Tranny will need to be built though to handle the power you would like. The AWD will last for a while, not sure how long? we had ours making 660 at the wheels for 10k miles and 860 at the wheels for 4k miles. We took the AWD out for weight and was still working perfectly after 36k miles. If you choose to build the motor it will cost a bit, a basic build will be 10k-15k. Head work and cams will bring you in the 2Xk's and up.
Good luck cant wait to see results

 

I don't know how much I was making actual AWHP, but I do know that I dynoed 868rwhp SAE in RWD (we had the driveshaft out at the time) with a peak of 27.1psi. I've ran as much as 30.1psi (on the street, but Justin has the car pulling timing above 29.5psi) so the car was WELL into the 900+rwhp area in the cold. With the driveshaft in and on 19's (315/25/19 Nitto INVO's in the rear and 235/35/19 (I think 35, don't remember exactly) PS2's in the front) the car was dangerous. I say that with a 100% serious look on my face right now. My 4.89 60-130 was done full weight (1/2 or 3/4 tank of MS109) and AWD on 19s. To be honest it was a "Hail Mary" run and I did it just coming back from eating some dinner and I had the driftbox. I had 60-100 times that were almost the same but would miss 4th or slow shift 4th (after I missed) and I'd fall out of boost. I hit the right amount of boost on the brake and nailed a 4th gear shift that probably would make MOST Porsche owners cringe (think with re-spool it was .2sec), car barely spun and it nailed the number I was after. I know if I got over maybe even 11 or 12psi on the brakes in 3rd gear at 55 the car would blow all 4 tires off. Some how my vicous coupler never broke before I took it out. I had plenty of time where I had to just abort a run (or even just playing around) because I came inches from hitting a curb or a guard rail. That's when I decided to take it all out. The weight saving is like 60-70lbs (I think it's less because my weak *** picked up the whole front diff and stuff by my self LOL). I also do some drag racing so I have a CCW Drag Pack with a 16" MT Drag Radial II's on the back and 17" Bias Ply front tires (I was going to end up maybe going ET-Streets one day). I went my 10.08 and my 149mph passes on the same day with the front diff and stuff in, but driveshaft removed. I didn't see any passes that day over 27psi peaks (in fact most avg'ed 26psi peaks). I found out later on that the timing setting I had on my standalone was actually a degree less than I was suppose to run (Justin forgot which made the big number, we learned this in the summer when that 1* of timing added almost 40rwhp). I was hoping to go 9s and over 150 with a stock bottom end.

I blew up my 3rd gear on pump gas (wastegate spring in the heat 13.X psi peak according to my HKS). I powershifted (no lift on the throttle or anything) 3rd and because it being a cable driven trans unlike the Vette (rearmounted trans) where its an actual shaft, it wasn't full engaged. If you search my threads I've made you can see the outcome of what happened (only 1 nub of a tooth on 3rd gear left). It was rebuilt by Gbox (they are some really cool people over there, and have a really fast turn around). I am currently making some major changes to my car to make a LOT more power, as I want 160+mph traps (hopefully). But the full details will come soon enough. I had over 5000+ miles (with 2000 (literally, went through 5-6 full tanks of MS109 with no pump gas in between) miles at over 850+rwhp) on this setup. My previous setup made 550rwhp or so on pump and 650rwhp on MS109. This setup made ~650rwhp on 1.2 (whatever 18psi peak would be, to lazy to open up a calculator) the rest of the time. I could have made 700rwhp probably on pump gas, but I did not want to push it (yet I've ran 2bar on MS109, ya ya I'm a hypocrite LOL). Scott though has done 700rwhp+ successfully in his GT2 so it is VERY much possible to do it, it's all in the tune though. TPC and Todd K. worked together with Scott's beautiful white GT2 and were making the power without a problem. If you have E85 available in lots of places in your area I'd suggest an E85 setup because well Corn Fuel is bad ***, but remember it does take more fueling (30-40% more fuel compared to a car making the same power (I think; Chris Green, Tony@EPL, or any E85 users probably know the exact amount)).

My setup details can be seen on http://www.boostlogic.com/?page_id=593 (Chuck I'm letting it link because they are a sponsor, but if it can't still be I am sorry). That is the direct link to it. I do have a standalone computer that was installed and tuned by Justin Nenni (being from the Viper area you probably know who he is). With a stock DME I was able to make 843rwhp on about the same boost with Tony@EPL. This was all done remotely with Justin and Tony working together to make the calls on what needs to be done.

Anyway I've blabbed enough and left off (and don't remember where I was going) I started writing this at like 8:30 and started watching the Green Bay / Dallas game and just sat back down.

EDIT: Not sure if I mentioned it, but for a clutch I am using a Tilton Triple Disk.

 

The basic Boostlogic setups seem quite affordable. What is the catch?

 

TTViper, try getting in touch with Ken who is a regular on www.porkers.co.uk
He's running a 996 Turbo tiptronic Proto 24/20g setup with a his tranny rebuilt by MKB in Germany (Euro 4k if I recall). He is running close to the figures you are looking for.

 

Take a look to that Protomotive TIP 996tt w/Alpha 30 kit + MKB Upgraded tranny...On low boost and pumpgas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJxycZgmTo

 

Sorry, just saw that post.

My car is currently the fastest tiptronic porsche. 60-130 4.97. It's on the list.

Of course it took some mods to get it shift like that and handle that power, but it's not impossible or never at all. at least not anymore