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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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EVOMS Thread Deleted?

Seems we were touching on meth and engine failure, and now it is gone.

Ben, ball seems to be in your court to green light EVOMS telling us what happened. What's the holdup?
 
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Wasn't deleted....I believe it was removed at the op's request
 
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Well well well. I am sure many would like to know how meth killed his engine for the sake of not blowing any more...
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3 Chuck
Wasn't deleted....I believe it was removed at the op's request
Semantics. It was deleted at the OPs request.

Just my personal belief but once other people engage in a discussion, the OP no longer 'owns' nor controls the thread. Deleting a thread for any reason seems to be 'revisionist'- what was said was said, cannot unsay it.

I'd like to see a 'closure' post and then lock it, but the info belongs to the members- present and future.

Of course when you run a purely promotional forum, that kind of policy will not sit well with Sponsors.
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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i kinda gree with both of you , i also asked and want to see how meth cuased the failure. but instead it just gets swept under the rug.

my guess is , evoms told him take the thread down and we will help you out etc etc.
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Semantics. It was deleted at the OPs request.

Just my personal belief but once other people engage in a discussion, the OP no longer 'owns' nor controls the thread. Deleting a thread for any reason seems to be 'revisionist'- what was said was said, cannot unsay it.

I'd like to see a 'closure' post and then lock it, but the info belongs to the members- present and future.

Of course when you run a purely promotional forum, that kind of policy will not sit well with Sponsors.
Well stated. There are several that have gone by the wayside like this. I agree with Ard's closure/lock approach. It strikes a good balance.
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Was the OP Big Bad Ben?
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Yep.
 
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Well since Ben always asks members for help when he has a problem maybe he will give back the same consideration.
 
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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closing or removing a thread at the original posters request has always been a courtesy extended to members...there is nothing revisionist or subordinate about it either to one member in preference to another or to a vendor/sponsor...some people like to see conspiracy everywhere...if the op asks for it to be put back up and closed it can be done
 
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I for one would like to hear what everyone has to say on the meth engine killer subject.
 
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Originally Posted by GT3 Chuck
closing or removing a thread at the original posters request has always been a courtesy extended to members...there is nothing revisionist or subordinate about it either to one member in preference to another or to a vendor/sponsor...some people like to see conspiracy everywhere...if the op asks for it to be put back up and closed it can be done

It *IS* revisionist... it is NOT a conspiracy of you Chuck,or of other mods and Admins- it is part of the manipulation of content by Sponsors.

In this case the OP most likely was 'asked' by EVOMS- work with us, etc, etc

Elsewhere as a mod I will not allow this to happen- you post, it becomes part of the record.

You say this is a courtesy extended to members, I say it allows 6speed to be manipulated to coerce vendors, since a vendor knows they can 'buy off' a correction.

Different philosophy, good and bad to both approaches- but members just need to understand that they are not really seeing an accurate picture.
 
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i agree, once a thread is made with issues about a sponsor or anything it needs to be played out so people know what happened
 
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Originally Posted by GT3 Chuck
closing or removing a thread at the original posters request has always been a courtesy extended to members...there is nothing revisionist or subordinate about it either to one member in preference to another or to a vendor/sponsor...some people like to see conspiracy everywhere...if the op asks for it to be put back up and closed it can be done
With the utmost respect you have to admit it certainly seems suspect and decreases their credibility....at least in my eyes.
 
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
i kinda gree with both of you , i also asked and want to see how meth cuased the failure. but instead it just gets swept under the rug.

my guess is , evoms told him take the thread down and we will help you out etc etc.
Nick ,i am pretty sure that is not how it went....especially considering the meth was installed after the car left Evoms facility.
 


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