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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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What's it worth?

I have been looking for a used low mileage 996 turbo for some time now. Finally came across a 2001' with 19,000 miles local to my home. Checked the car out, its super clean with all maintenance records and a clean carfax. The car is a fairly well optioned. Sport seats/heated, sunroof, wood trim and wheel, but no navigation. In addition it has an EVO GT700 kit, clubsport intercoolers, gt40 headers, milltek exhaust, stage 3 clutch, h & r lowering springs, and 19" techart formula wheels, plus the stock wheels and tires. The kit was installed by a reputable shop and has 5000 miles on it. How do I even begin to figure out what a car like this is worth. Please Help! It runs and drives fantastic.
 
Old Mar 19, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Check this thread for 996tt values
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...sed-996tt.html

Looks like some great mods and options on that car (except the wood trip in my opinion). Keep in mind that while the EVO GT700 is a great performance kit to get on that car, it doesn't add that much value to the car. For many buyers those mods will actually detract them from purchasing the car (probably not most 6speedonline members). Modifications only add value to the right buyer. If those mods are where you would want to go anyway if you bought a stock car then they may have some value to you.
 
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Personally I would maybe only factor in the wheels.

cars with a lot of performance mods send off the signal of the car was tracked or driven very hard.I would not buy one with that had all that stuff.
 
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I don't agree with your statement at all.

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Personally I would maybe only factor in the wheels.

cars with a lot of performance mods send off the signal of the car was tracked or driven very hard.I would not buy one with that had all that stuff.
Sorry to disagree.

I've modified every car I've owned, I've never tracked or taken any of them to the drag strip, and don't drive them that hard on the street either. I do like to have fun from time to time but never abuse the car, and spend allot of time making sure the car is taken care of. I know there are MANY others like me.

The whole package is a hobby to me, having fun driving the car, having fun detailing the car, enjoying the process of learning about the car and performing some of the maintenance.

Just my opinion. Get a PPI, let the experts decide whether the car was abused or not.
 
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The good news is there are lots of people like Tonka out there that would be steered away from a potentially perfectly good car due to those thoughts. In some cases it's well justified in others not at all. Get a good PPI on the car and that could help let you know if the car has been abused or not. If you like those mods, you should be able to get a great deal on this car given the owner probably put $30k into those mods and the value added to the car overall is small.
 
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Sorry to disagree.

I've modified every car I've owned, I've never tracked or taken any of them to the drag strip, and don't drive them that hard on the street either. I do like to have fun from time to time but never abuse the car, and spend allot of time making sure the car is taken care of. I know there are MANY others like me.

The whole package is a hobby to me, having fun driving the car, having fun detailing the car, enjoying the process of learning about the car and performing some of the maintenance.

Just my opinion. Get a PPI, let the experts decide whether the car was abused or not.
Here here! And there is nothing wrong with that. However, the odds that a car with no presented papers or original owners to speak to are that it more than likely holds a fair chance of being "checked out", "stomped on" or however you want to describe it.

I'm with you JSBear, I love to modify,, FOR ME. I do not go to the track in my cars and I just love what adding part by part does to the car as you continue to build it. It becomes a canvas of well orchestrated paint strokes. But the odds for owners like you and I are far lower than the opposite. And isn't that sad, but true.
 
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I guess I'm off base then ..

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Here here! And there is nothing wrong with that. However, the odds that a car with no presented papers or original owners to speak to are that it more than likely holds a fair chance of being "checked out", "stomped on" or however you want to describe it.

I'm with you JSBear, I love to modify,, FOR ME. I do not go to the track in my cars and I just love what adding part by part does to the car as you continue to build it. It becomes a canvas of well orchestrated paint strokes. But the odds for owners like you and I are far lower than the opposite. And isn't that sad, but true.
It just surprises me that these cars are so abused. Maybe my idea of abuse is different ? On the street, I never do any clutch dump launches, but will from time to time take off with some aggression. I like to the cruise around driving very tame, picking my spots for time to time to feel the turbo's spool. Is this abusing the car ? Why do people buy a car like this if they never have any fun driving it ?

I generally understand the common mentality that if it's been modified it's been abused, but a smart buyer and good PPI could help prove otherwise. I guess what I'm saying is, if your looking for a 996TT, and plan on modifying, don't overlook cars that are already modified, if you do your homework and get a good PPI, you could save a TON in the end. I tend to think most enthusiasts take better care of their cars, change fluids at regular intervals, and address issues more timely. Maybe I'm off base
 
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I agree. Although "Enthusiasm" sometimes comes in the form of stupidity. I think it is those that have experienced the pain of what it is to have broken something through their own enthusiasm and had to pay the price to fix that mistake are the ones that are more than likely to truly appreciate the machine over those that just turn key, turn and burn.

When I purchase cars, bikes, airplanes or whatever, you of course want a stringent PPI, but interviewing the current owner or finding some history on that vehicle if possible is imperative.

More importantly, and for God's sakes, this isn't suppose to sound ego boosted, but more importantly,,, a good thorough "gut check" with whoever you are buying from should be done. And I mean, stepping away from the item,, getting it out of your head and considering all attributes from a business outlook.

Don't ever let someone tell you to take the car home overnight,, that is called a "Puppy Dog Sale",, and when you have that item in your driveway,,, you mentally own it,, and it ties you emotionally to the item.

Never buy emotionally! Inspect, invest and mull over thoughts on all presented and hopefully make sound decisions, because it really hurts when you don't.
 
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Originally Posted by Hayabusa

When I purchase cars, bikes, airplanes or whatever, you of course want a stringent PPI, but interviewing the current owner or finding some history on that vehicle if possible is imperative.

More importantly, and for God's sakes, this isn't suppose to sound ego boosted, but more importantly,,, a good thorough "gut check" with whoever you are buying from should be done. And I mean, stepping away from the item,, getting it out of your head and considering all attributes from a business outlook.

Don't ever let someone tell you to take the car home overnight,, that is called a "Puppy Dog Sale",, and when you have that item in your driveway,,, you mentally own it,, and it ties you emotionally to the item.

Never buy emotionally! Inspect, invest and mull over thoughts on all presented and hopefully make sound decisions, because it really hurts when you don't.
This.

And I also think that mods only add value to the new owner if he/she values or appreciates those mods. In a lot of cases the mods are only worth pennies on the dollar. I am negotiating on a car that has "$40,000 in upgrades" but are worth a couple of grand at best to me.
 
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Is this a black turbo in Paramus? honestly I think it is a bit overpriced, I have seen similar cars in the lower 50K range
 
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This.

And I also think that mods only add value to the new owner if he/she values or appreciates those mods. In a lot of cases the mods are only worth pennies on the dollar. I am negotiating on a car that has "$40,000 in upgrades" but are worth a couple of grand at best to me.
Thank you, Sir!
 
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I've seed dealers typically value mods at 20% when reselling cars vs stock parts.
 
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Have not seen many stock P cars here on 6 speed. Indeed $30k + spent on this one.
If I was to purchase another one, it will definitely be modded. It will save tons of $$ down the road.
These cars a built well. I don't think abuse is so much the concern. I would look at proper maitenence.
My $0.02.
 
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