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Initially, I thought it might be a typo in the ad -- but look at the mileage. Is it basically new? (except for sitting around for 6 years?). Maybe they're serious about the price.
On the CPO question for older cars -- from my own experience, I picked up an '03 back in 2009. Originally, it wasn't offered as CPO. I did get a PPI and checked it all out, but then I asked whether I could get the car CPOed and how much it would be. They checked it out and indeed it could be CPOed at the cost of about $2000 more. After haggling about the price for a few days, I got it down to the final price I wanted, with the CPO, and the rest is history. Theoretically, maybe I could have gotten the price even lower without the CPO -- but I'll never really know....
The CPO has come in handy on a few minor things (which, as we know for our cars, is not always a minor price), so I'm glad I got it. The real question is whether I'll look into third party warranties when the CPO is expiring.
Good luck!
On the CPO question for older cars -- from my own experience, I picked up an '03 back in 2009. Originally, it wasn't offered as CPO. I did get a PPI and checked it all out, but then I asked whether I could get the car CPOed and how much it would be. They checked it out and indeed it could be CPOed at the cost of about $2000 more. After haggling about the price for a few days, I got it down to the final price I wanted, with the CPO, and the rest is history. Theoretically, maybe I could have gotten the price even lower without the CPO -- but I'll never really know....
The CPO has come in handy on a few minor things (which, as we know for our cars, is not always a minor price), so I'm glad I got it. The real question is whether I'll look into third party warranties when the CPO is expiring.
Good luck!
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I don't think any car can be CPOed. I got the impression that it had to meet certain criteria or specs before PCNA would certify. In some cases, it's things that the dealer can easily fix if they choose to (like remaining tire life, brake pads, etc.) Of course, they'll try to recover that in the sales price of the car. I'm sure there are other cases where PCNA just will not certify based on its condition. Anyone know for sure?
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Bad information. There is no type (range) 3 overrev on a 996, only range 1 and 2. You do not want any range 2s on a car with a stock ecu as those would indicate a mechanical overrev ( money shift ). You will probably see some range 2s on cars that are flashed and have a raised limiter.
The DME is usually included in a PPI. Although the porsche dealers that I've been to had the DME already done when they did the CPO. Ask for a copy of the report. Check for anything type 3 and up. Type 1 and 2 are technically ok. The IMS is a huge PITA to get to so they won't do it unless they can charge labor for it lol. But have them start the car and let it idle to see how it sounds. Some cars are loud, others aren't, it's luck of the draw. The IMS isn't that big of an issue. It's gonna be there whether you like it or not, and you'll get used to it.
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Bad information. There is no type (range) 3 overrev on a 996, only range 1 and 2. You do not want any range 2s on a car with a stock ecu as those would indicate a mechanical overrev ( money shift ). You will probably see some range 2s on cars that are flashed and have a raised limiter.
When I got my car flashed I had the rev limiter left alone to keep from logging type 2 overrevs. Its a shame you can't tell what RPM the Type 2 over revs are at. My guess is many type 2s are probably not bad if the engine only went into the low 7k range. A lot of flashes raise the rev limiter to this range and it's not causing problems. The problem is the ECU logs it as a type 2 same as a money shift overrev that hits big RPMs.
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I don't think any car can be CPOed. I got the impression that it had to meet certain criteria or specs before PCNA would certify. In some cases, it's things that the dealer can easily fix if they choose to (like remaining tire life, brake pads, etc.) Of course, they'll try to recover that in the sales price of the car. I'm sure there are other cases where PCNA just will not certify based on its condition. Anyone know for sure?
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I'm not a fan of raising the rev limiter past 7,000 but there were tuners here who were doing tons of cars with 7,600 RPM limiters a few years ago. I don't think it's really done that high anymore after a few valve-train issues.
Point being, it would take a serious money shift to rev the car that high and damage it.
Point being, it would take a serious money shift to rev the car that high and damage it.
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OP, if you have not already purchased, you really should (must?) do a PPI. And NOT by the dealer that is selling it.
Do keep in mind that there is no such thing as a 'standard PPI'. The Porsche dealer usually will NOT read the dme and look at over revs! In fact a CPO inspection will not read overrevs. Don't ask, don't tell I guess...
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Do keep in mind that there is no such thing as a 'standard PPI'. The Porsche dealer usually will NOT read the dme and look at over revs! In fact a CPO inspection will not read overrevs. Don't ask, don't tell I guess...
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Yeah -- this part is kind of bogus to me. Clearly, they'll use over revs as a reason to not honor CPO or warranty service. Therefore, I think they should definitely check for over revs if they're going to certify a car as CPO before selling it. It's a bit unfair for the new buyer to be denied warranty service on a "certified" car for something the previous owner did. Otherwise, what does certified really mean?
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