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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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My name's Alex. I bought OCTurbo's 2003 996tt a couple weeks ago. Its a great car, just needed a "detailed" detail to get it perfect. It has stock suspension and i'm wanting coilovers. After all the research it looks like Bilsteins are the way to go, am I right? Where is the best place to purchase them thats honorable and has good prices?

Also not to beat a dead dog, but how much can I lower it and still get to a good alignment w/o getting into all the aftermarket adjustable bits?

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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No expert but I hear pss9's are the way to go on a budget. My car is lowered an inch over stock and it Definetly increases inner tire wear on the rears. So anything more than that your asking for issues. Some guys put adjustable toe links to help bring the camber back in but also be aware that if your running aftermarket rims you might run into issue if you don't roll the fenders.
To save some cash buy tires that are rotationaly bias only, not in/out bias. That way you can rotate the rears and double the inner tire wear life. I just rotated mine.
To purchase look for used in he marketplace as I have definetly seen them come up at decent prices. Sorry I dont know any discount stores.
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Bilsteins are the way to go if you just want to lower the car a bit. The other choice is the X73 package from Porsche. They both cost about the same. The pluses of the PPS10's are they height adjustable and have some ride stiffness adjustability. They are suitable for very occational track use. A word of caution, do not expect to lower your car to GT2 ride height or run much wider wheels with radical offset, as the stock alignment eccentric cannot dail out too much negative camber or toe in. You'll end up spending a lot of money on adjustable rear upper links, rear adjustable toe links, and drop links. The plus for the X73 is that they are a factory part (which include stiffer motor mounts). They are not height adjustable and have a stiffer ride that you cannot adjust. However you know they work as Porsche designed them and has done significantly more real world testing than Bilstein. I would also do motor mounts with the Bilsteins as the stock mounts are overly compliant.
 

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Here is some more info. I ended up putting a set of used bilstines on because I got a compleat set for 305.00 dollars. I could not pass that up.
 
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Thanks for the info, tirerack.com seems to have the best prices on the PSS10's for $2790. I don't see PSS9's available from a google search for the turbo, are they still being made? Are the Bilsteins a lot better then the H&R's?
 
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Most will say bilstein is better. I'm sure there still making pss9. Good luck it's a slippery slope. I still haven't found a foot hold.
 
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The pss9 bilstein's do not come with top mounts. you reuse you existing mounts. some other coil overs have mounts included but cost more. For street pss9-10 for sure over the others. As stated above about 1'' lower is about it, thats on 18'' rims bigger the rim the less you can lower before needing the other bits. You can just go with the gt2 ride height and alignment spec's. looks and feels good.
 
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The H&R street coilover is very nice as well. It is essentially the same thing as the Bilstein PSS10 but without adjustable dampers. The ride quality is very good for the street. I purchased a set for my car. The dampers are made by Bilstein, and the springs are H&R. Like the Bilstein, they will need to use the OEM upper mounts, or an aftermarket mount. I personally went with a set of Tarrett Engineering camber plates in the front and rear upper mounts. The setup turned out to be very nice overall. I was able to align the car to GT2 specs easily.

I am planning to pull my set off the car soon and go to a Moton setup as I want something more adjustable for the track. However, I would highly recommend this setup for a good street car.

The H&R setup is cheaper than the Bilstein setup, and honestly, do you really need an adjustable damper for a street car? Just a thought...

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Installed PSS 10s about a month ago and I'm really enjoying them. I wasn't fully convinced it was worth the investment until I took off the 19" wheels and put 18's back on. Wow!
 
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KW hands down but if you're only looking for lowering the Bilstein kit is very durable.
 
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I have PSS10s (set to 6/8) and H&R sway bars front and back. I'm really impressed with the handling since I've been doing a lot of windy road drivings lately. However, I wasn't 100% sure I did the right thing until a wellknown alignment shop in the Bay Area told me that they would go with Bilstein any day before going with other brands (similar costs/grades).
 
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pss9s here they are great !!!!!
 
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Pss9/10 are great for the street. I rec all German auto in Escondido.
 
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