just be aware the cost of tuning the larger turbos is quite a bit more than the 16's. add injectors and labor if your not doing the work yourself and the cost goes up even more. also add the cost of the turbos themselves. seems blouch wont rebuild consumer turbos for the porsche even though they build them for most other cars. they turned me down and said i had to go thru one of the 2 vendors they deal with. = added cost

 

Either way, I think most would be adding injectors (and the reflash pricing should be similar whether you choose Billet K16s or 24/18g). So the tuning/injectors pricing should be the same, while the turbo pricing (as you mention below) is quite a bit different with the 24/18g costing ~$1200 more...

Thats the first I've heard of that...who do they recommend you use and how much more than the $1,400 Blouch used to charge are they charging?

Thanks!

 

you would think the pricing would be similar, but nope. 1800$ for my 24,injector,custom file. many use a 150$ fpr instead of injectors but not the route my tuner wanted to go. cost of the injectors and i spent every bit of 8 to 10 hrs doing the install.
epl and protomotive. i was quoted 2000 for the turbos PLUS another tuning fee for upgrading my current 24 file to the 18's. add approx another 1500 for the oem 24 turbos if you dont a core to send

 

95RogueM3 , Look at my post # 57 on this thread because it is a little more precise of my findings between the two..

 

Sorry 95Rogue met #53..lol

 

Hmm..I had been factoring ~$1500 for core K24s and then $1400 for the rebuild to 18g by Blouch or ~$3k shipped all said and done. So really more like $3,500 for the turbos?

Yeah, I've seen the people going the FPR route, but given the cost of these motors, I think its wise to step up the injectors...

Thanks. Formatting was a bit weird, so I wanted to clarify. Were you saying the Billet K16s outshine the 24/18g until 4250rpm where they become about equal until 5k rpms, at which time the 24/18g noticeably outshine the Billet K16?

 

YES, Exactly

 

that seems about right. i tried repeatedly to get blouch to rebuild mine to my tuners specs and was denied. told to contact the tuner. dont forget to add the cost of tuning to this equation. according to the tuner k16 and k24 files are completely different hence the different pricing

 

Really that all depends on what tuner is trying to push what turbo package. Those 2 turbos are common now a day's but some tuners don't offer a tune for both?
Both can get by on 5 bars and both can use Injectors. It's all how the tuner feels to charge for that option.

 

i can only speak to the files i purchased. base or canned tunes are for oem 16 or 24 turbos and run approx 800 to 1000$. add injectors and theres a charge. add other mods and ask the tuner to tune for a specific oct, mods and theres a charge. upgrade the turbos and theres a charge. mine went from 1000$ to 1800$ very quickly . if i go to 24/18 or 20 turbos ill be charged again to tune the car. i had a giac tune on the car when i got it. if theres a eprom chip theres a fee to have it removed. if you want more than 1 file there can be another fee.

while the tuner doesnt specify this it was apparent to me this was the way they wanted to tune the car for the best performance. so i yield to their experience and hopefully its money well spent. i know with the giac tune i had 91,93,and 103 race fuel file. couldnt tell any difference between any of the files. pig rich afr's no matter the file used

from my research i see tuning as proto,epl,umw,giac and in house tuners for specific shops. theres no shop within 4 hrs of me i could use so internet tuning was my choice. then its the options inc. i drag race so 2 stage launch control and no lift shifting were a big draw. i didnt use the cheapest nor the most expensive but i hope the best!

 

Then you should have used Protomotive, LOL, I have experienced and paid for both.. JUST MY findings..
I HOPE you will be happy with your choice down the road..

 

Your drivability handful is named in your quote. Spec is not a very good option for a 996tt. As far as singles go Clutchmasters is the way to go.

BTW driving a nice triple is much much more pleasant then ANY stage 3 single disc.

 

I just received a drag times notification of a 2002 996TT with K16 billets - 11.37 @125.8

http://www.dragtimes.com/Porsche-911...lip-26106.html

 

Hah that's my customer Paul's Tip. Hoping to get into 10's with a tq converter and IPD goodies. He is now making about 620-640 crank with a poopy tq converter.

 

A well sorted 16g car will do 10s all day and should trap around 130.

After all, this setup is known for low end torque.