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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TMWTP
Should I be concerned about any long-term affects?
HI,Most of the time I have seen on other vehicles that were over filled to the point that it did cause problems with seepage and blow by,,,,if corrected by removing the excessive oil when first realized ,,,, everything went back to normal....
But if you did do sustained high RPM driving, thus high oil pressure, when it was over filled you could introduce oil seepage at the weakest point in a gasket/seal area...
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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They're sending a flatbed tomorrow!
 
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
I bet the knuckleheads only drained the crankcase and forgot the drain the oil tank. Then they added 9 quarts = massive over fill. Can you PM the shop name?
I'd bet money this is exactly what happened. Worst case is you "hydraulic" (bend) rods when they try to compress a chamber full of oil on the compression stroke. Hopefully not the case!

An eerily similar thread here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...gine-gone.html
 

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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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That's not very reassuring.
 
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hopefully you've drained enough oil at the outset to have minimized the potential for catastrophic damage. my money is on you have. GL. ...
 
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Originally Posted by earl3
I'd bet money this is exactly what happened. Worst case is you "hydraulic" (bend) rods when they try to compress a chamber full of oil on the compression stroke. Hopefully not the case!

An eerily similar thread here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...gine-gone.html
+1 on this, I'd give 10:1 odds on it. If they haven't done any more work on it yet be sure to be there and oversee what they do. Idiots.
 
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Just got an e-mail from them that the car is running, and has been test-driven already. I just got back to town, so I haven't had a chance to discuss things with them, but I did ask that they check the plugs. Not sure the best way to check for a bent rod though.

In my other hobby (rockcrawling), vehicle roll-overs are common, as are the problems associated, such as oil in the cylinders. There were no knocks that I could hear when it smoked, so I'm hopeful that there wasn't that much oil in there. I guess I'll find out more info tomorrow.
 
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Originally Posted by earl3
I'd bet money this is exactly what happened. Worst case is you "hydraulic" (bend) rods when they try to compress a chamber full of oil on the compression stroke. Hopefully not the case!

An eerily similar thread here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...gine-gone.html
Wow that's scary as hell can't believe that.

Originally Posted by TMWTP
Just got an e-mail from them that the car is running, and has been test-driven already. I just got back to town, so I haven't had a chance to discuss things with them, but I did ask that they check the plugs. Not sure the best way to check for a bent rod though.
Did you find out what they did to fix the issue exactly? I'd want to know exactly how much oil they drained from the car. I'd also have them sign or do something stating they overfilled the car should an issue arise. Get a new bill for this service that states the issue and remediation.
 
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Btw, here's the email from today:

Hi John,

We cleaned and drained everything (crankcase, oil res, turbo oil collection containers, inlet pipes, boost pipes, MAF, and air box). Air filter was replaced. We redid the oil change and put the CORRECT amount in. The car has been driven several times by ***** and runs well. No issues were found after we performed the work. If you would like me to drop the vehicle off at your home, I can have that arranged tomorrow. Or, you are more than welcome to come pick it up.
So, things are looking good. I will require something in writing to offer some sort of guarantee on their work. Not sure how binding it would be though.
 
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A compression test could tell you if a Rod is bent.
 
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Btw, here's the email from today:
So, things are looking good.
helped in no small part by your immediately draining some oil and not driving around. good news.
 
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Got it back, everything is tip-top. Runs great, feels great, sounds great. I talked to the shop foreman (Porsche trained tech), he admitted that he assigned my car to an Audi tech who didn't know there are 4 drains on a 996 turbo. I got very lucky since I did not drive the car much, or hard before the problem was found.
 
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Originally Posted by TMWTP
Got it back, everything is tip-top. Runs great, feels great, sounds great. I talked to the shop foreman (Porsche trained tech), he admitted that he assigned my car to an Audi tech who didn't know there are 4 drains on a 996 turbo. I got very lucky since I did not drive the car much, or hard before the problem was found.
They are the lucky ones. You almost got a new engine
 
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how did i know this.

but this: "he didn't know there were four drains on a porsche turbo"
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
how did i know this.

but this: "he didn't know there were four drains on a porsche turbo"
I think that even that is kind of a "cop out" reply. Apparently the tech didn't even know there are two main plugs. The turbo res. tanks can be skipped without a ton of used oil still being left in the system.
 


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