All I know is that even at the Vegas shootout... no one broke into the 10s. Every serious tuner from Evoms to akkurat to IA and FVD was there. cars ranged from 500HP to 1000 hp... and most cars were in low 11s. So Im still kinda skeptical when it comes to 1/4 high HP cars, ESPECIALLY THE 6 SPEED MANUALS. I still have yet to see a manual get into the 10s.
On the other hand, I think Evoms, IA, and the like have come far , especially in the last 2 years(engine rebuilds etc...) ... so if I dont see mid to low 10s.. Ill be very dissapointed.
Just my thought!

 

MARKSKI,

It really isn't very surprising. If you know the history of these cars you will understand just how far they have come with the motors. Notice I said motors, not tranny's, cv joints or front and rear differencials. There are very few people working on these other parts.

Another thing to look at ............. the camber. The camber on these cars are set up for the track. They are for the most part 1.3 to 2.0 degrees. Flaten out the camber and the times will come down.

 

I know they share the same program.... You missed the point...

Rear wheel drive only and lighter... Not a true comparison to a TT.. That is all I meant...

Mana's GT800 dyno was like 727 WHP... I thought...

 

I have to chuckle at this one. Dave Colman (Excellence Feature Editor) was driving KA in May 2003. Almost 2-1/2 years ago. The ambient temperatures at the time of the run was 104 degrees F and there was a 24 mph head wind. Dave made one run of 11.3 or 11.4 and was thrown off the strip because he broke into the twelves with no cage.

It was also strange that KA was the only licensed car running and beating the times of all but two of the dedicated strip cars. The heat coupled with the head wind was taking it's toll on all the cars that day.

 

Bill...
We already ran the Tuner GP this year and won.. But we did it with a highly modded GT-3 RS.. Incidentally it ended up kicking the crap out of the modded turbos, but it was all road course..

As far as 1/4 mile.. My car ran a 11.28 at the first shoot out and won the road course portion.. I think with a little more tuning I can see 10.7-10.8 but beyond that I think mods on par with what Chad has done will have a better chance. based on the second shootout my car would have neen among the fastest at the second one as well... But if anyone is challenging I am alway up for a challenge

BTW: I think some people said no cars are running in the 10's
Wilber/Tysons car ran 10.7 at the first shootout

 

Yes... at the first shootout, the protomotive car ran 10.7.... but that was over 2 years ago....
WHATS UP with these current tunning packages?
I know our tts are heavy.... but If I, with 560 @the crank ran 11.5- why is is that cars with 200 or more HP can only run 11.1s????
I don't get it.

 

Also that 1/4 mile time was clocked with a gun not like a traditional 1/4 run.

 

I think the issue is that at a certain point the TT's reach a point of diminishing return.. More HP does not necessarily translate to faster 1/4 mile times. The TT's are very sensative to set up and many things need to be addressed that are'nt currently adressed with the typical bolt on packages available now.. If you look at the cars that ran low 11's and tysons 10 sec car.. those cars had some non HP mods that helped them perform at those levels. My car made less HP than many of the others in the shootout yet was amongst the fastest there... Basically on TT's More HP does not make for a faster car. Another issue on the TT is where the HP is made.. many kits on the market offer high HP levels but the peak HP comes at an unusable point in the power band

 

A breath of fresh air.

 

I agree with Hershel, most of us are not looking to go faster in the 1/4 mile we want to get around a roadcourse faster. As Chad mentioned the suspenion necessary to run a quick 1/4 mile will not be the same suspension that gets you around watkins glen the quickest. I do believe you are about to see 2 people here post times well into the 10's as soon as these two cars can get to the dragstrip

 

Probably a much better indicator of how we are improving are cars is a thread that says post your best dry lap time at x roadcourse. I can report back in September on Grattan Raceway!

 

Ill save the bench racing and excuses to you, i dont play that game, bottom line is your pro driver ran a mid 11 with your $200k in mods.

 

TT993,

I don't get your point. I don't disagree with the article, it speaks for itself. I do disagree with your insinuation that KA hasn't or can't run any faster.

If you would care to place a wager that she isn't any faster, I believe it could be arranged.

 

Chad
You have been awesome in sharing with us all that you have done to your car and the incredible amount of research and development that has taken place. I guess that is why I for one am dissapointed that you won't share your best 1/4 mile time. I can only imagine it is awesome but since you remain silent all I can do is imagine.

 

buddy,

I remember Wilbur/Tyson and then my own article. All you heard about Wilbur/Tyson was the radar gun, most people forget it was the fastest car out there at the time (gun or no gun). You go to my article all you hear is about the money spent. We were in an experimental stage with the intake and actually lost about 35 hp. It was extremely hot and there was a strong head wind. For May 2003 and the conditions it was a very good time.

People like TT996 remind me of a frustrated freeloader. They don't understand that the 996tt platform has only arrived where it is today because people experiment. This costs money. There are successes and there are failures. All they can do is make fun and complain. Where was TT996 in 2001, 2002 and 2003 when 400, 500 and 600 hp were each new and stste of the art milestones. I'm sure the pace will continue but at a slower progression. Maybe we will determine we have attained the ideal power bands already.

I guess this is why I didn't post my times anymore. I will say this, my current motor experiment will be my last with the 996tt platform, good bad or indifferent. When it is completed I will post the times and that will be the end of it. I really don't care what people like TT996 have to say. It really doesn't make any difference. A little annoying ......... yes.