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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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Wagner intercoolers on sale

Guys, just thought I'd post this:

http://www.wagner-tuning.com/PORSCHE-996-TT-Upgrade-Intercooler-Kit_p_11.html

Not affiliated with them in any way, but just bought a set for myself. They are on sale for about another hour or so. Their website cycles a couple products every two hours to be on sale, so if you don't want to buy right now, it'll probably come back up for sale again (I saw they were for sale for a few hours yesterday too.)

Looking forward to getting them installed!
 
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Anxious to hear real-world test results.
 
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I probably won't be the best candidate for that, I'm doing intercoolers, plugs, coils, injectors, turbos and tune all at once, so I won't have a before and after assessment.

After all that is done then I'll need to get an upgraded clutch put in before doing dyno testing.

There's a couple other guys running these already, not sure if they've posted any measurements.
 
Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:23 AM
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i have these they are fantastic for the price I could not be happier

 
Old Jul 22, 2015 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TXTurbo996
I probably won't be the best candidate for that, I'm doing intercoolers, plugs, coils, injectors, turbos and tune all at once, so I won't have a before and after assessment.

After all that is done then I'll need to get an upgraded clutch put in before doing dyno testing.

There's a couple other guys running these already, not sure if they've posted any measurements.
Can you provide an update on these intercoolers.
They seem to be the best bang for the buck right now on serious Intercooler upgrades.

Why are they black?
I tried calling their US number and the guy who answers the phone can't tell me squat except look at their website. I think they are running it out of their basement. He keeps putting me on hold to ask somebody a question then comes back with no answers to anything....
 
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Black is emissive, the color is a good thing and should allow it to radiate heat more easily.
 
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Black is emissive, the color is a good thing and should allow it to radiate heat more easily.
kind of amusing that you comment on this Mr. Blackmagic. ;-) you are correct, unless a "thick" black coating imparts a loss of conductivity. That said, black anodized would be a winner
 
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Black is emissive, the color is a good thing and should allow it to radiate heat more easily.
I think u might be a little biased.

Black is good for dissipating heat when not moving, but when ur not moving your not generating boost and heat associated with boosting.
Coating or painting an intercooler will impair its natural purpose at dissipating heat through convention.
Black radiators make sense, black intercoolers not so much.

I hope u didn't fall for this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1QL9veQaNg
 
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I've seen the video and while not conclusive I do believe that a thin black coating on a radiator is an advantage. Have you found a counter video?

Dark colors are emitters and there are certainly specialty coatings specifically for the purpose. Bare aluminum can corrode and become less efficient, AC repair guys have specific (corrosive) chemicals to clean this off as a result. I don't think the difference in this case is likely to be significant but I *believe* the darker color is beneficial and movement would make it even more so. Every little bit helps <shrug>
 
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
I've seen the video and while not conclusive I do believe that a thin black coating on a radiator is an advantage. Have you found a counter video?
Uhm yeah... its called science...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_mmmXTbLP0

Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Dark colors are emitters and there are certainly specialty coatings specifically for the purpose. Bare aluminum can corrode and become less efficient, AC repair guys have specific (corrosive) chemicals to clean this off as a result. I don't think the difference in this case is likely to be significant but I *believe* the darker color is beneficial and movement would make it even more so. Every little bit helps <shrug>
I'm not disputing the effects of dark colors and radiation, but radiators and intercooler although similar have slightly different ways to cool.
Radiators gets its name from how it dissipates heat.
Intercoolers need air to draw the heat away and adding even a thin layer of insulation via paint or any other coating negates that....
 

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Wagner intercoolers on sale

Best cheapest 3.5 coolers available IMO

Get them direct from Germany tell karsten wagner ur from here he may give u a deal
 
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i have these they are fantastic for the price I could not be happier

tim, whats the wagner "sale" price relative to the 7.2's i/c's? please dont help me change my mind? lol
edit: right out of the box in bold print they assure *us* they are NOT street legal in CA. not so the gt2rs. that takes care of THAT question. delete lol
 

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Wagner intercoolers on sale

Get the wagners Mark 7.2s dont fit very well they are to short wagners only need a bit of trimming mate i live on the gold coast in queensland australia in summer its very hot and these coolers still never cease to amaze me for the price and quality plus they even come with hoses if u need more bloody cooler hoses

If u were going to the track maybe 7.2s but for u mate its these u want
 
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But buy them from karsten wagner in germany tell him ur from six speed and i sent you cause i knew that karsten was going to give u a great deal like he did for me when i bought mine.

karsten email is on the www.wagnertuning.de website.

U will be as happier as you were when u first drove with the wavetrac
 
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Originally Posted by timccloud
But buy them from karsten wagner in germany tell him ur from six speed and i sent you cause i knew that karsten was going to give u a great deal like he did for me when i bought mine.

karsten email is on the www.wagnertuning.de website.

U will be as happier as you were when u first drove with the wavetrac
greatly appreciate the advice tim.. will take this info under serious advisement and consideration

but again... tim.. NOT STREET legal in CA. i can deal with on/off decat pipes.. lol. NOT IC's!! ya feel me?

yeah.. looking like some decent bang for the buck http://www.wagner-tuning.com/PORSCHE...1020_p_11.html

legality remains a concern
 

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