Don't think he's racing. Not many guys buy Cup Cars to DE in. Racing is hugely expensive vs DE, and cup operating costs are very high as well. He already has a fair amount into his current car, so to switch, much of that goes out of the window as well.

You can't run DE tires on a cup, in fact, they have been known to blow out even semi slicks (hoosiers R's and A's) because Cups like huge amounts of negative camber. So that leaves 2k + slicks that are dangerous when cold, and can hardly be run to the cords (safely).

His car is still street legal, so add trailer and tow vehicle expense. As well as you don't really want to do your own maintenance on a cup. Paying a shop to maintain and support at the track is very expensive. Not only that but I think buying a cup to DE is lame unless you plan to race it eventually.

- Anyways, back to the original point, I had mine (AC) done, however I had a few other things removed at the same time (clutch assist, and whatever else they could find). They threw everything in a big ole box and I put it on the scale and it was about 69 lbs. Sorry can't be more specific because they were just taking stuff they could find. But the weight was primarily AC and the hydraulics from the clutch. I think I attributed 60 lbs to the AC itself.

 

^^^ +1. Yeah. Pretty much exactly what I said on the previous page.

 

Looks like you were right JP and "The essential companion" got it wrong. Not all 996TT/GT2s came with the cooler, maybe all US cars but not ROW cars. Here is a picture of a ROW 2003 without one. Now I just need to find access to the ROW version of PET so I can get the factory part number for the fuel line that bypasses the cooler.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/pLNjmq]

 

Yes I saw the post from ghostofpain. I'm still trying to found out where I got that from…. Memory memory where are you?

 

Just found on an old thread and Alex55 from Romania did not have a cooler also….See post#6 also fuel cooler option code was M152...


https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...oler-pipe.html

 

Delete it and the power steering pump.. get the cup electric power steering pump that mounts up front, get the pentoson out of the engine bay and loose the drag. You will need to change one of the idler pulley's to a ribbed one. There is a lot of tubing for the A/C.. A LOT...

 

Get the cup return line. I may have one.

 

Thanks Tim. Let me know or just the part number if you have it handy.

 

Hiya.
Looks like my part.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Porsche-911-9...item3a991a7f5c

Partnumber is
99657309906

 

Thanks. That is the A/C pipe on the non fuel cooler cars. I am going to be removing all that. What I need is the part number for the fuel line that goes from the passenger side fuel rail (where the FRP is located) to the fuel return line. This should be one single fuel line on the cars without the fuel cooler like yours instead of the the two fuel lines that have the fuel cooler in the middle on the fuel cooler cars. I am beginning to think the part number of that fuel line may be 99611032391 as depicted as #15 in the following diagram:

http://www.jimellisporscheparts.com/...rimLevel=18177

This line is only shown to be 996GT3 specific however but a version of this 1 piece line like this must be on your car also but PET does not show it. Hmmm... This fuel line connects to fuel return line 99620127501 which is the same on both the 996TT/GT2 and GT3.

 

Pwdrhound,

I removed compressor and condensers many years ago when the car was track dedicated. The weight savings was 22.1 lbs for all. I left all the lines (front to rear) intact. They would've been a lot of trouble to remove and weight savings wouldn't have been worth all the effort. In my log book, I may still have the NAPA part # for the replacement belt I used, if you want to know. By doing it this way, I was able to restore the AC system to total functionality as it is today.

 

Thanks Al. That's about what I figured weight wise. So you ended up leaving the cooler intact and just removed the compressor and front radiators? I assume you just blocked off A/C lines in the front where they connect to the A/C radiators and in the rear ahead of the fuel cooler so they would stay clean? If you can dig up the part number for the Napa belt, post it up please. I think an OEM Cup belt is a direct fit. One of the benefits of removing the front A/C radiators is that you will greatly improve airflow through the primary front engine radiators. That is partially why I want to do this besides the weight loss.

 

Yes, I left the cooler intact. Just blocked all lines with silver metal tape. NAPA belt is #060750. Don't know about the cup belt fitting or not---never tried. I just bought a handfull of NAPA belts and kept installing and removing until I got one that was the right length.

 

Wow!



Great Thread Pwdrhound, thankfully I don't weigh as much as you! Not by much, thankfully for me, I can keep that air on at the track and still lose!


You run some great times dude!


Its fun watching you kill most modded GT3's without "owning" a Cup Car.


Cost is one thing but, its fun to run them down in a street car that can pass emissions!

 

^^ agree. i truly enjoy reading his threads as it's not only a tutorial? but also all the things that will remain on some "wish list" in my mind lol.

pwdrhounds car has to be some kind of a benchmark of a track weapon that he can drive ( if he wanted ) to the track. kudos and fascination.