^600/800 is plenty for many roadcourses...great for tracks that aren't glass smooth or if you also drive in the wet

 

This! I too have run JIC for about 10 years. Set many lap records on them too. Jon at JIC can revalve those suckers for you. Hes done mine a few times. JIC are very fast, but you have to work at tuning them and tender springs are a must for bumpy tracks. That being said the 996 TT I bought from HIX has KW's V3 so Im going to run them a bit, then likely revalve them. So far they seem to be much more compliant on bumpy surfaces, but factory kw spring rates are trash and they have progressive rates as well. All I want is 2 adjustments. Its hard enough tuning a single adjustable.

Your shock setup is only as good as how you tune it. You can really start with any of the name brands JRZ, Ohlins (not the road and track though, they are not track worthy imo), Motion Control. I would skip Moton, their main US guy runs motion control now and they were bought out by AST not too long ago. So support might be an issue. Just find you a good setup guy and a rebuilder. Thats the investment needed most with shocks. I have seen many a guy show up with 3 ways and never beat their times on single adjustables.

 

apologies to adrianm5! for invading of your thread! everyone wants you to spend and get the jrz's! lol..i cant do that

but if i could ask of the pros here ( again..? ) i'm waiting ( holidays ) to get a quote on revalving/rebuilding the gt3 coils. does anyone know about the adjustability of them? is there like one basic start point setup of them?? or are they adjustable which could lead me into a world of hurt re: alignment/tweaking etc.

i ask because i know this is going to be the least expensive way and finally get me off the damper/spring setup I've lived with forever without getting a new set of say,.. hr rss streets? not gonna/can't spend 5k! i'd be better off just getting b8!s for 300 a corner. if anyone can advise a recommendation, i would really appreciate it. its not worth a new thread and its been beaten to death a 100 times this topic! again apologies adrian for threadjumping..

 

I believe the only adjustment on the GT3 coils is ride height (like the H&R Street & RSS coilovers). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case you just have to figure out what spring rate you want (unless you are planning to just run the GT3 springs).

I contacted Elelephant a few months ago while I was researching my coilover purchase just to verify that they could rebuild & revalve the H&R Coilovers. The answer was yes to both. Price was around 150 each corner. I'm guessing the GT3 stuff would be similar pricing.

Do you happen to know your current spring rates? Are you running the H&R lowering springs or??

 

yes, I'm just on MO30's w hr sports ( red ) same setup for years. impossible nearly to find mo 30 for 996t any longer. i think b8 is pretty darn close or x73 similar.
i need a 50mm drop. nothing less than -40mm!
( sorry adrian! again,..sheesh.. )

 

Correct on GT2/GT3 coilovers, only adjustment is ride height and sway bar preload. Yes Elephant can rebuild/revalve.
They can build you a ready to install package as well..

 

Mark...Shooting you a PM

 

Cool, that is what I thought. Thanks

 

Curious about your opinion on the Ohlins R&T for track? Referring to the standard spring rates?
Cheers,

 

Welcome! If you are shopping for used 'cores', remember GT2 has the identical(minus some valving changes) shock to a GT3..maybe a few more sets available/sale
Have a Happy New Year,
Rob

 

Rob, Thanks for the info. Yup, I considered grabbing a used set of GT3 coilovers as well.

I decided to go with the H&R Street coilovers and I just installed a new set a few weeks ago on the car. Really happy with them!! My install notes: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...all-notes.html

Happy New Year to you as well!! Can't believe this year went by so fast!

 

I would go with the Ohlins TTX over the R&T. If I'm not mistaken the R&T set up comes with a pretty big spread in rates front to rear and it's sprung pretty soft. With a full monoball suspension I would stick with a 100# difference front to rear, no more than that. 700/800 or 800/900 works well for a street/track set up on a GT2 and will be on the upper end of what a non remote shock will handle. With remote canisters shocks you will be able to run much higher rates while still maintaining excellent compliance due to the fact that the shocks have much larger pistons and move a lot more fluid. I have run several version of JRZs and their remotes offer a substantial increase in performance over the non remote shocks. As Dez said, having someone that has the knowledge in setting up your shocks it the key.

 

Pwdr, I thought I read somewhere that you could order the R&T with your desired spring rates? Not sure if there would be an additional charge for that?

 

thanks kris! ( rob as well ).. i will RE-read all that info as it was too much to absorb quickly for my addled mind. plus i'm headed up the gorgeous highway #1 for a LONG days ride

cheers fellas! and happy new year ..and again, as always,.. thx for helping a novitiate out!

 

Working on a fairly tight budget this time, so the R&T is king in that sense..
~400lb front, 800lb rear are the standard springs on the R&T for GT2/3, but Ohlins will gladly revalve to any spring you would like...and openly state for smooth track use the rates could be higher.
Interestingly, from what I've seen, seems like all 'kits' from European manufactures spec a large front-rear spring rate gap similar to factory....only N.A. based stuff seems to encourage the close spring rates. Maybe due to surface quality and street-use requirements...maybe just different tuning mindset?
Another reason I'm very keen on the R&T kit, is that I pack on a lot of street miles(16k km this year) on some great roads and my local/frequented track is very bumpy; a Cup-like setup might simply not have the required compliance...
Think I will give the R&T a shot, and toy around with rates/valving once its dialed in...with the times its doing on cooked factory stuff, should be pretty impressive on anything fresh/modern
Would love to try the TTX or similar someday..