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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 06:33 AM
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K16 install

I just installed my k16 billet turbos and went to my tuner for a custom 1.3 bar flash. I added a 5 bar FPR and my tuner analyzed the info on the car and realized that we want to stay at 1.2 and the UMW tune in the car from before the turbo upgrade worked great. My tuner did not need to make any changes to Kevin's flash. We will do a custom tune when I add injectors but my tuner was not comfortable adding any more boost on the stock injectors with the turbos.

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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 06:37 AM
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I just installed my k16 billet turbos and went to my tuner for a custom 1.3 bar flash. I added a 5 bar FPR and my tuner analyzed the info on the car and realized that we want to stay at 1.2 and the UMW tune in the car from before the turbo upgrade worked great. My tuner did not need to make any changes to Kevin's flash. We will do a custom tune when I add injectors but my tuner was not comfortable adding any more boost on the stock injectors with the turbos.

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That's some nice power. What clutch are you using?
 
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Nice numbers! I'm really impressed with the torque! Where did you dyno?

I notice you're in Annapolis. You interested in getting together? I'm collecting info on all the local 996TT guys to do a gathering of sorts. Also looking to put together a caravan to Hershey swap meet.
 
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might want to turn that torque down to a bit. k16 billets are rod benders when the torque hits hard
 
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might want to turn that torque down to a bit. k16 billets are rod benders when the torque hits hard
No doubt. 300 rwtq in 1000 rpm will do that well.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
might want to turn that torque down to a bit. k16 billets are rod benders when the torque hits hard
You don't think he'll be fine at 1.2 bar. He says he's not even stepping up to 1.3 bar. Doesn't it take at least 1.4 bar and an aggressive tune to bend rods?
 
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You don't think he'll be fine at 1.2 bar. He says he's not even stepping up to 1.3 bar. Doesn't it take at least 1.4 bar and an aggressive tune to bend rods?
not really. its were the torque hits the hardest at 2000 to 3000 rpm that has to be watched. to fast a spool and hard hit bends them. the 1.2 is max boost not how fast it spools. thats the downside of k16 super hard hitting at low rpm. i would suggest keeping the torque below 600 ft/lbs on any car with stock rods and studs in it
 
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Yeah, boost isn't the issue cylinder pressure is and high torque is an indication of it. Maybe pull some timing to soften it up, might even speed spool?

I'm in VA as well and so long as we can pick a central point and get a few peeps together I might be down. Can't wait to get my car back lol!
 
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Running a magic UMW clutch lightweight flywheel etc. on a dynacom dyno
Bauer pm me tons of cool events coming up in March April with convoys. I'm in Baltimore now.
 
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Awesome event in VA This sat called fraggle rock. Basically exotic cars fill a neighborhood in centreville
 
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The power curve is bouncing around like crazy do not use a 5bar above 1.1bar also you have some knock looking at the graph and you will bend a rod quickly with that torque kicking in so fast and high. Send us a data log asap. We're just looking out for you because if that engine pops your looking at 20K dollars. Even with a 5bar your injectors are maxed out.
 

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The tuner is located in crofton MD called Frank Smith tuning.

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Never heard of him but can you answer my post above please. Thanks.

Datalog if you have one. I would go and talk to Kevin because your torque is way to high and I know Kevin would never run a 5bar at 1.3bar.
 

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Awesome event in VA This sat called fraggle rock. Basically exotic cars fill a neighborhood in centreville
Say what? Next Saturday? Centerville is blocks away from me and I've never heard of it!
 
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For comparison, here was my stock internal engine with Kevin's UMW K16/GT2RS turbos and detuned by Kevin for track use and 91 octane. I had his injectors and 3.8 fpr. His tune was flawless and detuned down low to protect the rods. I would have Kevin look at your logs since you had his tune to start. Something might not be quite right since your power drops off rapidly on the top end..

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