996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Latest round of mods complete. Gonna dyno next weekend. Predictions?

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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BauerR
I think you grossly underestimate where my car is, and with good reason, by all accounts, I should be making what most of the estimates have stated. However, that I know of, noone have done the mods that I have. Maybe because they were dubbed "unnecessary with K16's."
I can say this, Ive raced 997's and 996's that have made north of 550whp and they've lost. Ive also raced cars that trapped 127mph+ and they've lost...by a lot. With a good launch, I' know my car is a 130-132mph car in the 1/4. Which is completely unheard of with stock K16's.
If your car is making less than 600whp, I'd be happy to meet up for some fun freeway pulls. I think you will be shocked at the results.

As far as upgrading turbos? I think I'm done with modding this car. Its just way too nice of an example. Maybe, I'll look for a clapped out 996TT to go further with, but for now, I'm content.
132mph in the quarter mile with stock k16? Not going to happen.

1bar of boost you will be in the mid 400whp and thats with all of your mods.

You will be lucky to hit 125mph in 1/4.
 

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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BauerR
I think you grossly underestimate where my car is, and with good reason, by all accounts, I should be making what most of the estimates have stated. However, that I know of, noone have done the mods that I have. Maybe because they were dubbed "unnecessary with K16's."
I can say this, Ive raced 997's and 996's that have made north of 550whp and they've lost. Ive also raced cars that trapped 127mph+ and they've lost...by a lot. With a good launch, I' know my car is a 130-132mph car in the 1/4. Which is completely unheard of with stock K16's.
If your car is making less than 600whp, I'd be happy to meet up for some fun freeway pulls. I think you will be shocked at the results.

As far as upgrading turbos? I think I'm done with modding this car. Its just way too nice of an example. Maybe, I'll look for a clapped out 996TT to go further with, but for now, I'm content.
Instead of worrying about dyno numbers, why not just take your car to the track? Comparing dynos generally doesn't get you much information unless it's, same car, same dyno, different mods.

My car with similar mods as yours, except running stock X50 K24s and 1.3 bar, ran 126 mph in the 1/4. I would be flabbergasted if you were better than 125 on the K16s. And for reference, my car made 495awhp/525awtq on a Mustang dyno. Although I am currently sitting at 4500 static elevation, and generally 6,000-7,000 DA. So my mph and dyno should be slightly better.

But I'd love to see the proof. Go do it!
 
Old Sep 30, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by G-Rat
Instead of worrying about dyno numbers, why not just take your car to the track? Comparing dynos generally doesn't get you much information unless it's, same car, same dyno, different mods.

My car with similar mods as yours, except running stock X50 K24s and 1.3 bar, ran 126 mph in the 1/4. I would be flabbergasted if you were better than 125 on the K16s. And for reference, my car made 495awhp/525awtq on a Mustang dyno. Although I am currently sitting at 4500 static elevation, and generally 6,000-7,000 DA. So my mph and dyno should be slightly better.

But I'd love to see the proof. Go do it!
No way a factory K16 car is running 130+mph through the traps without Nitrous or massive weight reduction. I wouldn't be surprised to see 125-126 though on a a race gas tune.
 
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If youre car is really trapping in the 130s you either have crazy weight reduction or your stock turbos were upgraded by previous owner and not disclosed... Hard to argue with the numbers, but if your car is full weight and making that power, I'd be pulling the turbos off and measuring wheels....
 
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I also agree , k16's are just to small
 
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Looks like the weather isnt working for us this weekend. Nothing but rain. Shooting for next weekend.
 
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I've heard of k16's making close to 500whp a lot of doubtful people on here. Hope after all this a dyno sheet gets posted
 
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Originally Posted by joey996tt
I've heard of k16's making close to 500whp a lot of doubtful people on here. Hope after all this a dyno sheet gets posted
Even 500whp in a 3300lb MT car won't get you 130mph+ traps.
 
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I'm not arguing that at all I just think this car will make close to 500whp
 
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I'm not arguing that at all I just think this car will make close to 500whp
Not awhp. K16 run out of steam. You need billets to make that or above 500hp.
 
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It takes roughly 600hp (flywheel) to propel a 3400lb car to 130mph in the 1/4.

If my car ends up making what i think it will, it confirms why cars running 125mph+ traps lose so badly during roll racing against me.
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
It takes roughly 600hp (flywheel) to propel a 3400lb car to 130mph in the 1/4.

If my car ends up making what i think it will, it confirms why cars running 125mph+ traps lose so badly during roll racing against me.
Well we weigh more then 3400 pounds. I believe were somewhere in the 3600pounds without anyone in the car.

They might be terrible drivers.

It takes around 600awhp to get to 130mph looking at alot of videos.

Heres an example with billets hes still at 125mph 1/4. Roll racing and a start are two different things.

 

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FYI. My 2003 996tt coupe weighed 3500 lbs with 1/2 tank of gas, 100% stock with subwoofer except it has heavy (previous owner purchased) 18" Victor Equipment Turismos and A GT2 clutch acc/slave conversion. I was surprised to see the 2007 Volvo S60R only weigh 3700 with junk in the trunk. This was weighed on a winery's certified scale.
 
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FYI. My 2003 996tt coupe weighed 3500 lbs with 1/2 tank of gas, 100% stock with subwoofer except it has heavy (previous owner purchased) 18" Victor Equipment Turismos and A GT2 clutch acc/slave conversion. I was surprised to see the 2007 Volvo S60R only weigh 3700 with junk in the trunk. This was weighed on a winery's certified scale.
You be the lightest stock porsche ever lol.
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
It takes roughly 600hp (flywheel) to propel a 3400lb car to 130mph in the 1/4.

If my car ends up making what i think it will, it confirms why cars running 125mph+ traps lose so badly during roll racing against me.
I disagree. My previous car (Turbo 350Z) had small hybrid T25s that flowed a little better than the 996TT's k16s and my car made 540whp (~600 crank). It had a very wide power band with more power up top than a stock K16 996TT. My best trap in perfect conditions was 128mph (highest trap for any full interior 6-speed 350Z under 550whp). The Z only weighed 3200lbs too.

If you want to prove us wrong, take your car to a drag strip. Otherwise you are just bench racing.

As a side note, I love that you are testing the full potential of the stock k16s. (if your car does indeed have stock k16s) Based on the videos of you vs. upgraded turbo 996s this seems like a stretch though.
 


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