996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Latest round of mods complete. Gonna dyno next weekend. Predictions?

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Old Oct 8, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by joey996tt
Well my car just got tuned oem k16's and it made 520whp. I have Wagner intercoolers, fender well intakes, y pipe w/ external BOV, x pipe style exhaust no cats, maf less, and Cobb access port
Interesting. Attached is my recent RWD run - EOM k16's and OW 3" catless and UMW tune. It ran out of steam at 4250 where torque falls off and reach a max rwhp of 453.

The suggestion here is the fender well intakes, y pipe w/ external BOV, x pipe style exhaust no cats, maf less removes significant breathing restrictions.

Would those mods allow my stock k16s run to around 5250 with max torque to produce 520rwhp.

Is this overly simplistic ?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sourcerock
Interesting. Attached is my recent RWD run - EOM k16's and OW 3" catless and UMW tune. It ran out of steam at 4250 where torque falls off and reach a max rwhp of 453.

The suggestion here is the fender well intakes, y pipe w/ external BOV, x pipe style exhaust no cats, maf less removes significant breathing restrictions.

Would those mods allow my stock k16s run to around 5250 with max torque to produce 520rwhp.

Is this overly simplistic ?

Yes, you are oversimplifying it. We don't know what kind of dyno joey996tt ran on and we also don't know if he was running AWD or RWD and on what fuel.

Breathing mods won't move your max torque to the right (which you really don't want anyway). What they will do is cause the torque to hold on longer or fall off more slowly therefore making more HP up top.

450rwhp is fantastic on a Dyno Dynamics for your mods. They are typically heart breaker dynos.
 

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Yes, you are oversimplifying it. We don't know what kind of dyno joey996tt ran on and we also don't know if he was running AWD or RWD and on what fuel.

Breathing mods won't move your max torque to the right (which you really don't want anyway). What they will do is cause the torque to hold on longer or fall off more slowly therefore making more HP up top.
Ok, I will re-word my question as I intended to ask:

My car, same fuel, on the same dyno, same operator + the intake mods discussed here.

Will my existing torque on the dyno chart hold on longer (fall off more slowly) and make 520rwhp from 4250 to 7000 where I'm making 450 rwhp from 4250 to 7000 ?
 
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Originally Posted by joey996tt
Well my car just got tuned oem k16's and it made 520whp. I have Wagner intercoolers, fender well intakes, y pipe w/ external BOV, x pipe style exhaust no cats, maf less, and Cobb access port
Did you dyno stock on the same dyno?
 
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Originally Posted by Sourcerock
Ok, I will re-word my question as I intended to ask:

My car, same fuel, on the same dyno, same operator + the intake mods discussed here.

Will my existing torque on the dyno chart hold on longer (fall off more slowly) and make 520rwhp from 4250 to 7000 where I'm making 450 rwhp from 4250 to 7000 ?
You'd make more power. How much exactly I won't speculate until Joey posts a dyno sheet.
 
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Originally Posted by Sourcerock
Ok, I will re-word my question as I intended to ask:

My car, same fuel, on the same dyno, same operator + the intake mods discussed here.

Will my existing torque on the dyno chart hold on longer (fall off more slowly) and make 520rwhp from 4250 to 7000 where I'm making 450 rwhp from 4250 to 7000 ?


It felt like I gained 50 hp when I went Mafless with filters on turbos
 
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It felt like I gained 50 hp when I went Mafless with filters on turbos
You dont really gain anything. It just makes you not blow a maf again.
 
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You gain nothing with filters on turbos? Lol. Like I said, I gained a ton.
 
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You gain nothing with filters on turbos? Lol. Like I said, I gained a ton.
You dont gain you free up hp. It will not gain 50hp with filters on turbos on k16.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
You dont gain you free up hp. It will not gain 50hp with filters on turbos on k16.
I gained, freed up, generated, misticly developed more power with filters on turbos than I did with any other mod I've done to date. Including going catless with a tune.

All with K16's. ..
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
I gained, freed up, generated, misticly developed more power with filters on turbos than I did with any other mod I've done to date. Including going catless with a tune.

All with K16's. ..
Thats good you will be somewhere in the mid 400 to high 400. Depending if your rwd or awd.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Thats good you will be somewhere in the mid 400 to high 400. Depending if your rwd or awd.
I don't care if it makes 4 or 4000 hp on the dyno. Im still embarrassing the $hit out of cars running low 11 's at 127mph +.

All on stock K16's
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
I don't care if it makes 4 or 4000 hp on the dyno. Im still embarrassing the $hit out of cars running low 11 's at 127mph +.

All on stock K16's
Well that would mean you would have bigger turbos. But i saw the pics from sam awhile back and there stock k16s. Anything above 125mph would mean you would have billets but you dont. I would just listen to these other guys and run the quarter mile. Dont be dissapointed if you only hit 120 mph.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Well that would mean you would have bigger turbos. But i saw the pics from yom awhile back and there stock k16s. Anything above 125mph would mean you would have billets but you dont. I would just listen to these other guys and run the quarter mile. Dont be dissapointed if you only hit 120 mph.
This is 6speed member that I'm sure would be happy to chime in. 11 sec car at 124mph on stock K16's also. You, or anyone else here dont seem to know what stock K16's will make when fully optimized.

Again, proven 124mph at the track.
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Originally Posted by BauerR
This is 6speed member that I'm sure would be happy to chime in. 11 sec car at 124mph on stock K16's also. You, or anyone else here dont seem to know what stock K16's will make when fully optimized.

Again, proven 124mph at the track.
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https://youtu.be/ERGPqnfo5ZQ
Correct he ran 11.3 at 124mph and i believe he was automatic. Your saying your going to run 130mph or more.

That guy has maxed out his turbos to go any faster.
 


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