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Latest round of mods complete. Gonna dyno next weekend. Predictions?

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Old Oct 8, 2016 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by D.K
I'm not sure why there is so much doubt. BaueR is in slightly different territory with his mods and is going down a path that most seem to divert from. Dyno numbers aside, his runs show that he has gone up against billet K16 cars and faired pretty well. That has to show for something. Anyone willing to try something new is always a plus in my book, and its obvious that he has the confidence in his car so if anything, I'm looking forward to seeing what he does down the road.
Well sorry to tell you thats why we have no dyno sheets in this post or quarter mile runs. All he is saying is well i run on a highway and beat the guy.

His mods are nothing special we have all or most have done it.

Filters on turbos will do almost nothing with stock turbos. Maybe a hp or 2.

Ypipe is pointless untill you have big turbos.

Mafless is good so you dont blow a maf sensor.

Hes claiming he can make 530awhp on stock turbos.

Thats the facts.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Well sorry to tell you thats why we have no dyno sheets in this post or quarter mile runs. All he is saying is well i run on a highway and beat the guy.

His mods are nothing special we have all or most have done it.

Filters on turbos will do almost nothing with stock turbos. Maybe a hp or 2.

Ypipe is pointless untill you have big turbos.

Mafless is good so you dont blow a maf sensor.

Hes claiming he can make 530awhp on stock turbos.

Thats the facts.



Lol exactly! I'll run anyone!

Almost doesn't equal the same. So no, you have no idea how my car will respond to the mods given. All of my "pointless" mods have apparently added up to a lot.

If the power gain I felt was only 2...I'll take 2 hp jumps all day long! Hahahahah
 
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Originally Posted by D.K
I'm not sure why there is so much doubt. BaueR is in slightly different territory with his mods and is going down a path that most seem to divert from. Dyno nuk16 car.s aside, his runs show that he has gone up against billet K16 cars and faired pretty well. That has to show for something. Anyone willing to try something new is always a plus in my book, and its obvious that he has the confidence in his car so if anything, I'm looking forward to seeing what he does down the road.
Haha, at this point I feel like he's just trolling me. He knows for sure what my car will make, or wont, with absolutely no experience with the mods that I have done on a stock k1
 
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Lol exactly! I'll run anyone!

Almost doesn't equal the same. So no, you have no idea how my car will respond to the mods given. All of my "pointless" mods have apparently added up to a lot.

If the power gain I felt was only 2...I'll take 2 hp jumps all day long! Hahahahah



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We know that it doesnt matter how many mods you have. Heck build your motor you will still be below 500awhp a stock turbo just doesnt flow good. There small wheels were not beating up on you just telling you we have done it. Your car is quick and if thats what you like all to you. Thats what i wanted back then and i loved it.
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
Haha, at this point I feel like he's just trolling me. He knows for sure what my car will make, or wont, with absolutely no experience with the mods that I have done on a stock k1
Lets see go back to the first 3 pages everyone is telling you the samething lol.

Send a pic again of the turbo wheel that we saw awhile back.
 
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So the 996 now is eBay 15 years old ? To say that no one has modded a k16 to its max potential with full bolt ons etc.. Is a bit silly.

May I ask how long you have owned your car for?
There are guys including me that have had these cars since 01 when they came out, and being a little nutty have never stopped modding them.

I've had 5 different setups over the years. 16's, 24's,18',20g,3076's.
A stock k16 can only flow so much .period.

Now forget dynos, and all that jazz. If you really want to know how fast your car go get a vbox and run a 60to 130
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Well sorry to tell you thats why we have no dyno sheets in this post or quarter mile runs. All he is saying is well i run on a highway and beat the guy.

His mods are nothing special we have all or most have done it.

Filters on turbos will do almost nothing with stock turbos. Maybe a hp or 2.

Ypipe is pointless untill you have big turbos.

Mafless is good so you dont blow a maf sensor.

Hes claiming he can make 530awhp on stock turbos.

Thats the facts.
True, there are no Dyno sheets or track slips, but we do have videos of him running down a K16 car. Numbers aside, it does prove something. I'm not saying that it couldn't be related to other factors, but the videos show what they show.
I could run him on my billet K16 car, but I know that my car isn't running optimally at the moment. However, based on his results, he can really only guesstimate is output on what he comes across. No harm in that. Dynos can be adjusted to show what you want them to show. He could be guessing high...could be guessing low. Either way, there's no harm in having the highest confidence in your car.
 
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
So the 996 now is eBay 15 years old ? To say that no one has modded a k16 to its max potential with full bolt ons etc.. Is a bit silly.

May I ask how long you have owned your car for?
There are guys including me that have had these cars since 01 when they came out, and being a little nutty have never stopped modding them.

I've had 5 different setups over the years. 16's, 24's,18',20g,3076's.
A stock k16 can only flow so much .period.

Now forget dynos, and all that jazz. If you really want to know how fast your car go get a vbox and run a 60to 130

+1

You said it well man. Yeah you have had tons of setups and all of them were awesome numbers.

Question? How did your 3076 turbos go for you? Interested in knowing how far you went with those?
 
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Originally Posted by D.K
True, there are no Dyno sheets or track slips, but we do have videos of him running down a K16 car. Numbers aside, it does prove something. I'm not saying that it couldn't be related to other factors, but the videos show what they show.
I could run him on my billet K16 car, but I know that my car isn't running optimally at the moment. However, based on his results, he can really only guesstimate is output on what he comes across. No harm in that. Dynos can be adjusted to show what you want them to show. He could be guessing high...could be guessing low. Either way, there's no harm in having the highest confidence in your car.
Well put it this way. If you truly have billets and your losing to a stock k16 turbo.........

A. You have blown your motor.
B. You have blown your turbos.
C. You cant drive.
D. Popped a boost hose off.
 
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Originally Posted by unvmth
So the 996 now is eBay 15 years old ? To say that no one has modded a k16 to its max potential with full bolt ons etc.. Is a bit silly.

May I ask how long you have owned your car for?
There are guys including me that have had these cars since 01 when they came out, and being a little nutty have never stopped modding them.

I've had 5 different setups over the years. 16's, 24's,18',20g,3076's.
A stock k16 can only flow so much .period.

Now forget dynos, and all that jazz. If you really want to know how fast your car go get a vbox and run a 60to 130

Reading this thread, no one has. That's all I have to base this off of.

I've had my car a little over 2 years, but for what it's worth, have never owned a non turbo car in my 23 years of owning cars.
I've been reading this forum and Rennlist for nearly 10 years now as a lurker. Once I got my car I started reaching out to other owners. Naturally we started racing. They all asked what turbos i had and I said stock k16s. I also said I'm probably making 450whp, based off my readings here, and the universal response was laughter. " no way that's all you're making!"

I'm less interested in dyno numbers but I will do a pull. I'm most interested in 1/4 traps.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Well put it this way. If you truly have billets and your losing to a stock k16 turbo.........

A. You have blown your motor.
B. You have blown your turbos.
C. You cant drive.
D. Popped a boost hose off.

Simply bolting on a set of larger turbos without the proper supporting mods will not automatically make your car faster than a car with smaller turbos that's fully optimized.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Well put it this way. If you truly have billets and your losing to a stock k16 turbo.........

A. You have blown your motor.
B. You have blown your turbos.
C. You cant drive.
D. Popped a boost hose off.
I have bad coils, possible boost leaks, possible bad TB, possible bad MAF...it wouldn't be fair.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to re-write the books or anything like that. I'm just saying why not try a different road sometimes? If someone is footing the bill on their own car, giving them advice and experience is great, but bashing them for trying is just a bit much. Maybe he'll find something new...maybe he won't, but there's no harm in trying, is there?
 
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Originally Posted by BauerR
Simply bolting on a set of larger turbos without the proper supporting mods will not automatically make your car faster than a car with smaller turbos that's fully optimized.
Of course not. I cant even begin to tell you how much money i have in my build lol. I think your making more then 450whp tighten your wastegates so you can get to 1.2bar make sure your tune can support it. Are you rwd or awd?
 
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Originally Posted by D.K
I have bad coils, possible boost leaks, possible bad TB, possible bad MAF...it wouldn't be fair.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to re-write the books or anything like that. I'm just saying why not try a different road sometimes? If someone is footing the bill on their own car, giving them advice and experience is great, but bashing them for trying is just a bit much. Maybe he'll find something new...maybe he won't, but there's no harm in trying, is there?
Well if i lost to a stock turbo car and i had billets i would be sending it to a shop to see the issue.
 
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Things I've noticed in my short time in the Porsche world.
1) 99% of people care too much about how loud their exhaust is. Meaning, they prefer a choked up boutique exhaust that has 14 mufflers, resonators and 200 cell cats to an actual free flowing performance exhaust. That's fine but understand you're leaving a lot of HP on the table.

2) 99% of owners are still pulling though a stock airbox with a paper filter. Again, you're leaving a lot of HP on the table with this.

3) 99% of owners run stock intercoolers and the ones that don't are only running 3.5's and all of them are running stock diameter intercooler plumbing.

I don't care if you're running 16 billets or K24's. You come across me with your choked up car... youre gonna lose.

This has been my experience with the Porsche world to this point
 

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