996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by su_maverick
Im just going to take some time over the winter and decide. The RX-7 and the 911 are the best cars Ive owned so it really is a toss up. The market might end up making my decision for me if they bump up again in the spring.

That is a beautiful C5 btw
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks at the last PCA weekend I had to instruct and I didn't drive so I brought my polisher out and did a two step polish and wax between sessions. Got a lot of grief for waxing a race car but the paint looked as good as it did when it was a street car.
 
Old Oct 11, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Swapped FD3 is a dream car of mine although an MX5 swapped would also rock - missed out on a cherry local one. The 911 is expensive, ding a tire wall and the parts add up fast. Consumables aren't cheap either. People local have asked me about tracking mine and I tell them it's too fast for me and that I'd prefer to learn on a slower car that's cheaper to consume and it's true. If you're already driving well it may make more sense for you but for mostly pleasure driving on a track I'd be real tempted to switch cars
 
Old Oct 12, 2016 | 12:34 AM
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Setting up a 6TT for the track is not cheap. Plan $5K for entry level track use, $10-15K for mild track work and $20-30K to properly set up the car for hard track duty. Go all out and you'll easily spend $50K+. Budget about $500-$700 / hour in operating costs for a hard driven TT. May sound high but it's still about 1/4 of the operating cost of a 7Cup. If done right and with a competent driver, there is not a car that can touch it (certainly no production car) and only a well driven 7Cup will provide a challenge. Honestly, even if you start with a 6GT2 you will need to invest about $10-15K to get it set up for hard track use.

If you can stomach the operating costs, these cars provide a rush that few others can match. I say do it. It's nice to see more guys getting into tracking these cars and challenging themselves a bit. Beats the hell out of going to cars & coffee and discussing you favorite wax.

If you need a little persuasion, here's a recent video of driving the car with some aggression, the way it's meant to. About as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. First three laps are clean and the rest with traffic...

 

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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 01:32 AM
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I use my turbo for mild track use. The series is called porsche club cup and the goal is to achieve the same times every round you go around the course.
It was said before, that the car is heavy, so lose weight. Get lost of all whats under the bonnet, get a lightweight battery, lightwheigt wheels in 18" and some good lightweight racing seats. Every kilo helps.
You need bigger brakes 350mm for sure and better brake cooling + race fluid. Bigger brake calipers in the front are nice, but not neccessary if you do mild racing. I would pick the Gt2 spoilers to cool the brakes better. Remember to cut the sheet of iron behind the brake rotors in the back for that.
You need different coilovers like pss10 or something similar.

hmm.. guess thats it..well thats what i did and i love my car on the track

 
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and one of my best laps basically as my car came - now it is a bit lighter.
 
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That camera position needs improvement
I used a GoPro with the GoPro suction cup holder.
 
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That camera position needs improvement
I used a GoPro with the GoPro suction cup holder.
you cant see your hand position.... worst viewpoint i have seen
 
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Swapped FD3 is a dream car of mine although an MX5 swapped would also rock - missed out on a cherry local one. The 911 is expensive, ding a tire wall and the parts add up fast. Consumables aren't cheap either. People local have asked me about tracking mine and I tell them it's too fast for me and that I'd prefer to learn on a slower car that's cheaper to consume and it's true. If you're already driving well it may make more sense for you but for mostly pleasure driving on a track I'd be real tempted to switch cars


yes...mx5 or any mazda speed miata is glorious on the track (with a turbo!)
 
Old Oct 12, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jferrante
you cant see your hand position....
What for?
I know my hand position.
Whats the handposition worth, if yu cant see anything orn the camera shakes like a cow tail.
 
Old Oct 12, 2016 | 11:07 AM
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What for?
I know my hand position.
Whats the handposition worth, if yu cant see anything orn the camera shakes like a cow tail.
ok
 
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as pwdrhound says it isnt cheap. but heres something to think about and may just sway you a bit. a member on here byron in ms is an instructor at the porsche hq in atlanta. avid road atlanta racer he has a 996 turbo that was street / track duty car. he ran at road atlanta and let a friend drive hos car which was unfortunately wrecked. BUT he had track ins AND secondary driver ins! they covered all of the 30k$ repair bill . he went 997 turbo front end kit and no is back at road atlanta enjoying his car again.

moral is if you spend the ins money you can enjoy the turbo to the fullest without fear of wrecking and losing all you invest.
 
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Yeah, Im not so much worried about the cost of the modifications but more the cost of the maintenance which tends to be much much more over time. Besides, any initial work I do the car would be for reliability, safety and cooling versus any power. I dont want to out-build the driver in this case.

Weight is definitely a big point and why I was thinking about the RX-7. In stock form they are around 2800-2900lbs so a race version would be much easier on components than the 911.

Ill figure it out by the spring. Till then I will just continue to use my IS and make sure this is what I want to spend my money on. If I choose to go the 7 route I will probably return the 911 to stock in the spring.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
as pwdrhound says it isnt cheap. but heres something to think about and may just sway you a bit. a member on here byron in ms is an instructor at the porsche hq in atlanta. avid road atlanta racer he has a 996 turbo that was street / track duty car. he ran at road atlanta and let a friend drive hos car which was unfortunately wrecked. BUT he had track ins AND secondary driver ins! they covered all of the 30k$ repair bill . he went 997 turbo front end kit and no is back at road atlanta enjoying his car again.

moral is if you spend the ins money you can enjoy the turbo to the fullest without fear of wrecking and losing all you invest.
Not too worried about the wreck side of it. That is a risk you have to take with any car on the track. Mostly, its just that if I do track the car, that pretty much seals it in as the car I keep for that as resale will fall quite a bit. That part is more of a financial decision more than anything.
 
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