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The Rematch: Alex's 996TT vs. Darius' TT Viper (previously owned by Gary Javo)

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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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from reading a bit on the www.viperalley.com board.... they seemed to be really POed at someone over here for what they said was a cheap shot.. a bull sh*t video that didnt prove anything... so I can understnad why they would in turn go ahead and post a run that they hooked on... one or two out of 10 I believe... and to them won....
thats why i dont think it will happen...
I dont understand... a twin turbo viper that hooks at 100 mph... why would anyone want that... no wonder why they dont want to run 30 mph rolls...
...If taht was a race in chicago.. it would never happen... I have a hard time finding races from a 30 mph roll let alone 100 mph...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
from reading a bit on the www.viperalley.com board.... they seemed to be really POed at someone over here for what they said was a cheap shot.. a bull sh*t video that didnt prove anything... so I can understnad why they would in turn go ahead and post a run that they hooked on... one or two out of 10 I believe... and to them won....
thats why i dont think it will happen...
I dont understand... a twin turbo viper that hooks at 100 mph... why would anyone want that... no wonder why they dont want to run 30 mph rolls...
...If taht was a race in chicago.. it would never happen... I have a hard time finding races from a 30 mph roll let alone 100 mph...
the great white can do rolls M still likes whole shots tho.
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
from reading a bit on the www.viperalley.com board.... they seemed to be really POed at someone over here for what they said was a cheap shot.. a bull sh*t video that didnt prove anything... so I can understnad why they would in turn go ahead and post a run that they hooked on... one or two out of 10 I believe... and to them won....
thats why i dont think it will happen...
I dont understand... a twin turbo viper that hooks at 100 mph... why would anyone want that... no wonder why they dont want to run 30 mph rolls...
...If taht was a race in chicago.. it would never happen... I have a hard time finding races from a 30 mph roll let alone 100 mph...
LOL Mark seriouslyy.. And that's why i turned down a trade for one of the fastest tt viper's at over 1200RWHP and tq, because i knew every aspect of me and being a driver would diminish, its strictly a warm weather straight line car at that point, and even at 800 hp!
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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This whole race has become a joke IMO, who cares anymore. I agree with what a few have already said, a roll at 100, blah blah. The guy in the Viper has to have slicks, again blah blah. Win or lose the Porsche is a better car, PERIOD, it's an everyday car, end of story.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cynicali
Hey I've wondered about Sharkey's car.... is that a street driveable machine? Can you really turn with all that horsepower? I had assumed (albeit possibly incorrectly) that the car was a drag car mainly as I have really only read about his track times and so on.. This car handles?

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Nope, its totally a domestic now. TH400, transbrake, chute and all. I heard it barely makes the turn onto the return road at sac without tipping over.

 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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I think the real test would be 0-150 or 180. They appear to concede to the 996tt off the line and they think they can make it up after 100 mph. If the Viper waits much longer to race VR then he is going to find himself with another 996tt on the other side. And we won't need drag radials with our setup.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cjv
I think the real test would be 0-150 or 180. They appear to concede to the 996tt off the line and they think they can make it up after 100 mph. If the Viper waits much longer to race VR then he is going to find himself with another 996tt on the other side. And we won't need drag radials with our setup.
oooooooo ****. amazing that you guys can make a true street car (out)perform a race car. everyday usuable supercars, now that is a rare category in itself. best of luck with your turbo, hope to hear about it on the streets soon!
 
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Originally Posted by cjv
I think the real test would be 0-150 or 180. They appear to concede to the 996tt off the line and they think they can make it up after 100 mph. If the Viper waits much longer to race VR then he is going to find himself with another 996tt on the other side. And we won't need drag radials with our setup.
And what magic is this? 1000+hp and youre going to do this on street tires? This I have to see.
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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oooooooo ****. amazing that you guys can make a true street car (out)perform a race car. everyday usuable supercars, now that is a rare category in itself. best of luck with your turbo, hope to hear about it on the streets soon!
Yes, but don't think any of these cars would stand a chance endurance wise with a real race machine.

In the above statement I not taking a thing away from VR's car. I know it is one of the fastest 996tt's in the world. Each car has it's own strength's and weaknessess. I'd really love to see how the Viper does against each one from a standing start to 150 mph. We all know there are some pretty fast Vipers out there. The above contest would give each car a opportunity to shine. Of course the first one to 150 wins. This contest would require the cars to be well sorted in all areas.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pakisho
And what magic is this? 1000+hp and youre going to do this on street tires? This I have to see.
No magic. In our case, extra displacement, a built motor, programmed NOS, awd, larger axles, LSD front and rear, gearing that will take her to 150 in third and a three disk clutch that really doesn't slip (much). Wheels (not rubber) are 10.5 front and 12.5 rear. And yes, a suspension geometry and dampers that aren't from a 996tt.

With the above setup, we bent all six rods two years ago using street tires and alot less power. Of course our tires on all four are just a little wider and a wee taller profile, we'll also be use a zero camber setting.

How do you think a Viper would do on street tires from 0-150? You know these are all fast cars. Maybe we ought to find out how they do on both types of tires?
 

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So is the race gonna happen or is the Viper guy pussying out?
 
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Alexander called the guy(darius) a couple of times... but had no return calls...
... maybe hes still in Miami??? or just trying to put in last minute NOS.
at least thats what he tried to do the first time....
Again... If a guy drives up here in chicago to anyone thats ready to race and says 100 mph roll... everybody would laugh at him... that is the most rediculous thing Ive ever heard as well.... its all about 1/4 street racing.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Alexander called the guy(darius) a couple of times... but had no return calls...
... maybe hes still in Miami??? or just trying to put in last minute NOS.
at least thats what he tried to do the first time....
Again... If a guy drives up here in chicago to anyone thats ready to race and says 100 mph roll... everybody would laugh at him... that is the most rediculous thing Ive ever heard as well.... its all about 1/4 street racing.
So yah he is a *****.

Darius have huge ego, but a very ***** personality. What a combination!!

Putting on last min NOS and adding slick tires on top of that. That must be a freakin JOKE! Plus only post the runs that benefit him while they did a handshake not to post any of the run.

So this is how it really goes in his head or how he say it to others

Darius "My car can take on the porsche NO PROBLEMOOOOO"

Inside Darius (**** i don't know if i should ***** out or not!?!? Maybe i should add nos and slick tires. Nah maybe i just post some of the videos and thats the end of it. Yah i m a ***** but i eat stinky ***** for lunch!)
 
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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I think the real test would be 0-150 or 180. They appear to concede to the 996tt off the line and they think they can make it up after 100 mph. If the Viper waits much longer to race VR then he is going to find himself with another 996tt on the other side. And we won't need drag radials with our setup.
CJV- The Viper guys are not worth our time and gas...I spoke to Mike (the owner of the NOS LS1 RX-7) a couple of days ago, he said that he raced Darius several times on the highway and they where "dead even to 140mph". He said that I shoud run him at 1.5bar (the boost that I ran the RX-7 with) and that I would have no problems pulling him at any speed. At this point I have lost respect for the man for not living up to his word, and I could care less what the Viper forum thinks. I know I can pull that Viper, so therefore that story is dead for me.
Now lets talk KA!!! I will be back in the bay area on Friday, give me a call if you want to drive my turbo over the weekend. I strongly believe that after driving her, I can definetly persuade you to put GT40R's on KA....

Maybe I should post a 9 second (street tire) quarter mile video just to ****-off Gary Javo, since he has never broken into the 9's with the Twin Turbo Viper.....then again who cares!
 

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Maybe I should post a 9 second (street tire) quarter mile video
Please do! I have seen some 911's run low 10's but nothing ever into the 9's. That would be sick!
 


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