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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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swapping cdr-23 heaunit for oem navi

Since the search function isnt working, how do i go about swapping the bose headunit from an 03 turbo (with fiber optic wiring from the headunit - cdr 23) to the oem navi from an 03.
Is this a plug n play swap? Any additional equipment that i need to purchase aside from the actual navigation headunit and discs?

Anyone selling used or want to trade + cash?

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Should be a plug and play swap but you might need some trim bezels that re-locate the HVAC controls to the bottom of the console.

As to used units, ebay is your friend.
 
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Yes..you are right about the trims for the ac unit...

is 1500 for a used one in good condition a good deal??
 
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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Make sure that it's for an '03 and above. The earlier units won't work and you'll recognize them because they have a cassette player in the unit.
 
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i've done this twice on my two different '03 porsches. go over to renntech and use the search function. there are a slew of additional parts you need - such as fiberoptic cable, antenna, antenna wiring, etc. it's not that difficult of a job but just takes awhile. you definitely need to follow the TSB instructions over on Renntech. They are free as long as you're a paying member.
 
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Lizard, thanks for info?
question. why would i need another fiber optic cable and antenna wire if i have them already from the back of the cdr-23?

is this like a conversion piece?

also, since you done this twice on an 03, is thier a way to connect an aftermarket navi headunit with stock amps/wires/speakers?
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actually - you don't need another fiber optic cable. i added the CD4 changer at the same time so that is why i needed a different cable.

if you have fiberoptics, then you cannot add an aftermarket headunit to your factory amp - you must change the amp as well if you go with something aftermarket and do away with the fiberoptic crap
 
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Damm i am actually selling a full 01 navi which is no joke like brand new, sitting in boxes without the wires though..
 
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illm3, i would have been interested if it was an 03+.

lizard...so your saying if i go aftermarket navi i need to get a good amp to go along with it.
am i safe with keeping the existing speakers? or swap them out as well while im at it?


i guess it depends how much i can get an 03 navi for.
if i can find one for 1k used ill just go that route.

If thier expensive i guess its more worthwhile to go aftermarket...
 
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illm3, i would have been interested if it was an 03+.

lizard...so your saying if i go aftermarket navi i need to get a good amp to go along with it.
am i safe with keeping the existing speakers? or swap them out as well while im at it?


i guess it depends how much i can get an 03 navi for.
if i can find one for 1k used ill just go that route.

If thier expensive i guess its more worthwhile to go aftermarket...
Im pretty sure you can use the 01 throughout all of the model turbos with the right wiring
 
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i'm not sure about using older nav units with your fiberoptic system? I would guess not but i cannot say for sure. anyways, i'd opt for the newest nav system available. i bought mine for around $1500 used from a board member. the additional parts ran about $200 (but that did include the fiberoptic cable which you will not need)

as far as changing out the speakers? i don't know. maybe so as the output from the new amp will not be fiberoptic and the speakers are running on a fiberoptic system - maybe you can just change out the wiring? i'd check over at renntech.org. a guy named Loren should have all your answers

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Im pretty sure you can use the 01 throughout all of the model turbos with the right wiring
Nope, '03+ were on the MOST fiber optic system so it won't work. The whole sound system needs to be re-wired to use anything that's not MOST compatible.
 
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Nope, '03+ were on the MOST fiber optic system so it won't work. The whole sound system needs to be re-wired to use anything that's not MOST compatible.
Oh wow that really limits me for the buyers out there, thanks for clearing that up before i sold it to someone and they would have a huge fit
 
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well if anyone has/knows of an 03+ navi for sale let me know....

thanks for clearing thing up...i was about to pull the trigger on a panasonic avic unit...i guess i would have been really surprised to find out that it just doesnt work...
 
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