2006 Turbo S vs 2006 Z06
#16
Guys.... The 997 Turbo TIP does a 0-60 in 3.4. The Enzo does it in 3.3. The 06 is 3.9 and 1/4`at 12.2. Road & track, The TIP does it in 11.6 for crying out loud!!! What are you guys talking about and what are you smoking??????????? Mike
#18
I drive a Z06 regularly and it is unlikely that even a chipped 997TT will keep up with it. The biggest disadvantage the Porsche will have is the gearing. The Vette has put in some nice tall gears to get the massive power to the road. The TT will be spending too much time shifting gears. Slightly modify the Z06, and even many of the high stage TT's will have to settle for looking at the Vette's backend. It won't be long (working n one now) before you start seeing some 1000 hp Z06's on the road. They are just too easy to modify and hold the road as well as any Porsche.
However, as always, the skill of the drivers play a big role in performance of any car.
However, as always, the skill of the drivers play a big role in performance of any car.
Last edited by 1999Porsche911; 03-26-2006 at 10:42 AM.
#19
#21
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
I don't see how 4 wheels = 2 wheels?
For those of you who have not taken the Z06 for an agressive ride, it is not a car to take lightly, whether in a straight line or the twisties. It will, however, put you in the ditch faster the a TT if your skill level is weak.
#22
The C6 Z06 is capable of running LOW 11's on stock tires. Ranger, a known member on the Corvette forums just ran an 11.34 @ 127 in BONE stock trim on street tires. Can anyone do this? No, but this is a clear indication of what the car is capable of doing.
A stock Turbo S would get walked by a C6 Z. A chipped Turbo S would still get beat, but would be a closer race. 997 TT would also get beat, imo.
This car is fast fellas, better respect it on the road. I am still trying to find one to race in my Viper I just got. I know I will get beat, but i am just curious by how much.
A stock Turbo S would get walked by a C6 Z. A chipped Turbo S would still get beat, but would be a closer race. 997 TT would also get beat, imo.
This car is fast fellas, better respect it on the road. I am still trying to find one to race in my Viper I just got. I know I will get beat, but i am just curious by how much.
Last edited by SCvet00; 03-26-2006 at 11:18 AM.
#23
Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
It's all about the driver skills. More people can successfully navigate a track with AWD, PASM, ADD, PMS, or whatever other computer controls you want to run, but it takes a greater amount of skill to drive a raw sportscar. I suspect that an otherwise good TT track driver would have a whole new learning curve to get the Vette around the track.
For those of you who have not taken the Z06 for an agressive ride, it is not a car to take lightly, whether in a straight line or the twisties. It will, however, put you in the ditch faster the a TT if your skill level is weak.
For those of you who have not taken the Z06 for an agressive ride, it is not a car to take lightly, whether in a straight line or the twisties. It will, however, put you in the ditch faster the a TT if your skill level is weak.
#24
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
I agree with this statement and that doesn't just go for Porsche to Z06 but for any AWD to RWD car... they are totally different animals. However up until your posts, no-one was speaking of track performance. We're talking straight line speed, and in that sense the Porsche will always "hook up" better due to AWD.
As far as hooking up on the street with the Vette..this is not a problem. The Z06 locks itself to the pavement immediately. Again, driver dependent. People tend to forget that much of a car's performance is dictated by the driver and not the car. This is HUGE, unmeasured variable in many of these published magazine times. Just because someone might be the best Porsche driver in the world does not mean that he can properly drive another car. There are many drag racing events I won (and lost) with cars of conssiderably different power, because of driver skill.
Last edited by 1999Porsche911; 03-26-2006 at 11:37 AM.
#25
the new z06 motors have not been proven to be bullet proof. in fact have a friend that rebult his motor before rec his car.changed pistion cams and bunches of other stuff he now has 554 to the rear..... he was told the the stock zzzzz06 spin to high and go by by very easly. changed his power band and has had no probs...had the car rebuilt in tex. by gilliotte ( prob misspelled )...anyway that's my two cents
#26
Originally Posted by steve harris
the new z06 motors have not been proven to be bullet proof. in fact have a friend that rebult his motor before rec his car.changed pistion cams and bunches of other stuff he now has 554 to the rear..... he was told the the stock zzzzz06 spin to high and go by by very easly. changed his power band and has had no probs...had the car rebuilt in tex. by gilliotte ( prob misspelled )...anyway that's my two cents
Standard scare tactic from dishonest rebuilders wanting to sell parts to uninformed owners. I am currently looking at a 427 small block Z06 engine on a work bench torn down to see how it works. In is one strongly build engine as it comes from GM. 1000 hp with stock internals looks quite acheivable.
#27
Sorry guys, I thought the first post was about a 997 Turbo. But your right, the Zo6 will be the 5 year old 996 TT. I would think that the new 06 wants to compare it to the new current Turbo. Yeah I know It isn`t out yet---3 more months. I repeat- A Tiptronic in 3.4 and 11.6 1/4. That gentleman, beats an 06. 7 litre against a big fat automatic. I think that is called: ENGINEERING! Anyway, I think it is extreemly amusing how Porsche times their Turbo releases in the market place. I think they could turn up the boost anytime and clobber the existing competition. A little 65 HP gain here and there. It`s kind of comical. I think Porsche`s Turbo performance increases, as small as they are, will me "milked' for the next 20 years to stay ahead of the pack. Hell if Porsche built a 7 litre machine, how fast do you think that would be? I think the outlawed the 917 by the way!
Just having fun guys, Mike
Just having fun guys, Mike
#28
Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
It's all about the driver skills. More people can successfully navigate a track with AWD, PASM, ADD, PMS, or whatever other computer controls you want to run, but it takes a greater amount of skill to drive a raw sportscar. I suspect that an otherwise good TT track driver would have a whole new learning curve to get the Vette around the track.
For those of you who have not taken the Z06 for an agressive ride, it is not a car to take lightly, whether in a straight line or the twisties. It will, however, put you in the ditch faster the a TT if your skill level is weak.
For those of you who have not taken the Z06 for an agressive ride, it is not a car to take lightly, whether in a straight line or the twisties. It will, however, put you in the ditch faster the a TT if your skill level is weak.
I have spent a fair amount of time driving a new Z06 on the surburban twisities and canyons and there is no doubt it is trickier to drive than a AWD 996 turbo at or near the limit for obvious reasons (AWD vs RWD). However, the C6Z is child's play compared to a comaparably or higher powered GT2 when driven aggressively coming out of the corners hard on the throttle.
Also, I would guess most C6Z drivers are not good enough at car control to handle their cars near the limit without the electronic nanny protecting the owner from their lack of driving skill. Then again, Chevy's electronic nanny, aka "competitive driving mode" is quite good, so the majority of low skilled Z06 drivers will look like heroes in the canyons and the track. However, turn it off, and their $65k plastic rocket ships will end up in the weeds or worse.
Don't get me wrong, the new C6Z is an amazing sports car for little money. However, I would spend another $50k and get the complete package; the 997 GT3. Now that will be great street/track car.
Last edited by Cerberus; 03-26-2006 at 07:42 PM.
#29
auto motor und sport test results of Z06 and factory claims of 997tt.(note factory claims on CGT turned out to be optimistic!)
997TT Tiptronic 0-100 kph: 3.7 sec
Corvette Z06 0-100 kph: 4.0 sec
997TT Tiptronic 0-160 kph: 7.8 sec
Corvette Z06 0-160 kph: 7.9 sec
997TT Tiptronic 0-200 kph: 12.2 sec
Corvette Z06 0-200 kph: 11.9 sec
997TT TipS 100-200 km/h: 8,5 s
997TT 6-spd 100-200 km/h: 8,9 s
Vette C6Z 100-200 km/h: 7,9 s
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Corvette Z06 AMS 6/2006
0-100km/h: 4.0s
0-160km/h: 7.9s
0-200km/h:11.9s
60-100km/h: 4.0s/6.0s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 6.1s/11.1s(5/6)
1.-98km/h 2.-146km/h 3.-202km/h 4.-264km/h 5.-320km/h(6250rpm) 6.-320km/h(4100rpm)
weight: 1453kg
Carrera CGT AMS 23/2003
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 7.3s
0-200km/h:10.9s
60-100km/h: 3.8s/4.8s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 4.6s/6.3s(5/6)
1.-81km/h 2.-139km/h 3.-181km/h 4.-237km/h 5.-282km/h 6.-330km/h(8300rpm)
weight 1472kg
Lamborghini Gallardo(500hp model) AMS 23/2003
0-100km/h: 4.2s
0-160km/h: 9.0s
0-200km/h:13.8s
60-100km/h: 4.8s/6.2s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 6.3s/8.1s(5/6)
1.-105km/h 2.-147km/h 3.-194km/h 4.-240km/h 5.-291km/h 6.-309km/h(7400rpm)
weight: 1612kg
BMW M6 AMS 12/2005
0-100km/h: 4.2s
0-160km/h: 8.7s
0-200km/h:13.0s
60-100km/h: 4.4s/5.8s/6.7s(4/5/6)
80-120km/h: 5.5s/6.7s/9.4s(5/6/7)
1.-71km/h 2.-108km/h 3.-160km/h 4.-207km/h 5.-247km/h 6.-281km/h 7.-305km/h(7350rpm with 07ME option)
weight: 1760kg
Ferrari F430F1 AMS 9/2005
0-100km/h: 3.9s
0-160km/h: 8.6s
0-200km/h:13.0s
60-100km/h: 3.7s/5.1s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 4.5s/7.3s(5/6)
1.-77km/h 2.-120km/h 3.-159km/h 4.-199km/h 5.-243km/h 6.-316km/h(8850rpm)
weight: 1488kg
996 Turbo(X50 kit-450Hp) AMS 25/2002 -- May have been a 'ringer'
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 8.2s
0-200km/h:12.4s
Unfortunately no in-gear data...
Weight: 1578kg
996 Turbo Cabrio(420Hp) AMS 19/2003
0-100km/h: 4.3s
0-160km/h: 9.5s
0-200km/h:14.6s
60-100km/h: 4.4s/6.2s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 5.1s/7.4s(5/6)
1.-60km/h 2.-115km/h 3.-162km/h 4.-206km/h 5.-250km/h 6.-305km/h(at 6600rpm)
Weight: 1660kg
Interesting, fully fueled the CGT weighs more than the Z06! Has anyone weighed their CGT with full tank?(my GT2 was 1486)
997TT Tiptronic 0-100 kph: 3.7 sec
Corvette Z06 0-100 kph: 4.0 sec
997TT Tiptronic 0-160 kph: 7.8 sec
Corvette Z06 0-160 kph: 7.9 sec
997TT Tiptronic 0-200 kph: 12.2 sec
Corvette Z06 0-200 kph: 11.9 sec
997TT TipS 100-200 km/h: 8,5 s
997TT 6-spd 100-200 km/h: 8,9 s
Vette C6Z 100-200 km/h: 7,9 s
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0-100km/h: 4.0s
0-160km/h: 7.9s
0-200km/h:11.9s
60-100km/h: 4.0s/6.0s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 6.1s/11.1s(5/6)
1.-98km/h 2.-146km/h 3.-202km/h 4.-264km/h 5.-320km/h(6250rpm) 6.-320km/h(4100rpm)
weight: 1453kg
Carrera CGT AMS 23/2003
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 7.3s
0-200km/h:10.9s
60-100km/h: 3.8s/4.8s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 4.6s/6.3s(5/6)
1.-81km/h 2.-139km/h 3.-181km/h 4.-237km/h 5.-282km/h 6.-330km/h(8300rpm)
weight 1472kg
Lamborghini Gallardo(500hp model) AMS 23/2003
0-100km/h: 4.2s
0-160km/h: 9.0s
0-200km/h:13.8s
60-100km/h: 4.8s/6.2s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 6.3s/8.1s(5/6)
1.-105km/h 2.-147km/h 3.-194km/h 4.-240km/h 5.-291km/h 6.-309km/h(7400rpm)
weight: 1612kg
BMW M6 AMS 12/2005
0-100km/h: 4.2s
0-160km/h: 8.7s
0-200km/h:13.0s
60-100km/h: 4.4s/5.8s/6.7s(4/5/6)
80-120km/h: 5.5s/6.7s/9.4s(5/6/7)
1.-71km/h 2.-108km/h 3.-160km/h 4.-207km/h 5.-247km/h 6.-281km/h 7.-305km/h(7350rpm with 07ME option)
weight: 1760kg
Ferrari F430F1 AMS 9/2005
0-100km/h: 3.9s
0-160km/h: 8.6s
0-200km/h:13.0s
60-100km/h: 3.7s/5.1s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 4.5s/7.3s(5/6)
1.-77km/h 2.-120km/h 3.-159km/h 4.-199km/h 5.-243km/h 6.-316km/h(8850rpm)
weight: 1488kg
996 Turbo(X50 kit-450Hp) AMS 25/2002 -- May have been a 'ringer'
0-100km/h: 3.8s
0-160km/h: 8.2s
0-200km/h:12.4s
Unfortunately no in-gear data...
Weight: 1578kg
996 Turbo Cabrio(420Hp) AMS 19/2003
0-100km/h: 4.3s
0-160km/h: 9.5s
0-200km/h:14.6s
60-100km/h: 4.4s/6.2s(4/5)
80-120km/h: 5.1s/7.4s(5/6)
1.-60km/h 2.-115km/h 3.-162km/h 4.-206km/h 5.-250km/h 6.-305km/h(at 6600rpm)
Weight: 1660kg
Interesting, fully fueled the CGT weighs more than the Z06! Has anyone weighed their CGT with full tank?(my GT2 was 1486)
Last edited by rmrmd1956; 03-26-2006 at 01:06 PM.
#30
Still bottom line again is, keep the vette, imo, nothing that is said here, posted here, show all the time slips etc, will never get me in one. I sat in one at the auto show and it reminded me again that bottom line it's a chevy.
I like Porsche and for me nothing else will do, others like both me not at all.
I am sure all of you that have them are happy with them as it should be.
Bajo
I like Porsche and for me nothing else will do, others like both me not at all.
I am sure all of you that have them are happy with them as it should be.
Bajo