i could've waited for the C6Z06 to come out instead of "just" the 996 Turbo.. but I knew the turbo is the car for me.. if I could get both, I'd beat up the Z06 as a track car and keep the Turbo nice.. hehe.

 

Exactly what i did as well! And man let me tell you, my car at stg 2, took it out last night and it blew my mind after driving my G35 around for like a month, the handling around these twisty roads at the speeds i was going and grip was mind blowing, the car is insane!

 

I've seen one bone stock engined (with drag radials) C6 Z06 run 11.01 in the 1/4 mile. The drag radials were only used to get good traction. Others, with good drivers of course, are getting into the 11.4-11.7 range on the factory tires @ 124-126mph. The mph, alone, is no laughing matter. Even the 2nd gen GT2 isn't in that area, and I know that the Z06 is faster than the new 997TT because of the gearing, weight difference (400+ lbs), and hp (they are under rated and throw down over 450whp, stock). A stock 2nd GT2 will quickly fall behind the new C6 Z06 in a straight line race and I know that the Z06 is faster on the 'ring.

Now the question is this: Is the new 997TT faster than the 2nd gen GT2 on the 'ring with stock, factory tires? I don't believe that it will be, honestly. Will it be faster in the 1/4 mile? Perhaps, but only because of traction. I mean, the new 997TT might run 11.7 @ 120mph while the 2nd gen GT2 might run 11.8 @ 122mph. That 2mph trap speed difference will allow for the GT2 to pull away when going from a roll. 1/4 mile ETs are about traction and the trap speed is more of a sign of the horsepower to the ground. Keep that in mind...

I would take a 911 turbo over a Vette almost any day of the week, even if it is slower, and it will be. However, don't underestimate the power of the new Vette. It is hands down, the best bang for the buck sports car out there (quality of materials aside). It set a new level in terms of performance. Most exotics will have a hard time matching that level of performance and many will fall short. I am ONLY speaking of performance in the above paragraphs. 0-60 times mean nothing to me. Sure, the 997TT will have a better 0-60 time because of the TRACTION. AWD gives you that advantage. However, when traction isn't an issue, the Vette will blow away the competition. Just look at the above numbers when the cars are run to 150 or 175mph. AWD cars jump out to a few car lead, but are quickly passed because of the raw power to the ground that the Vette puts out once it puts those ponies to the floor.

 

Here you go. The 997TT is going to be faster than the z06. The 911 turbo is a premier exotic as opposed to a cheap, domestic. Well truly see what the 0-60 and 1/4 mile and all the stats are when the turbo is officially out in the hands of the public. As far as the 2nd gen gt2, heres on for u. GT2 with a GIAC chip and evo intake ran an 11.750 @126. Just a little more on the GT2 but it weighs about 3300 lbs which is 200 lbs or so heavier than the z06 and with those two upgrades probably puts it easily over 500 hp. And one more thing, many people have been dynoing their z06s at about 490 to the wheel which tells it has more hp than they claim, mor ein the range of 550. From a roll, the GT2 is more than likely going to pull on a z06. throw radials on there and ur probably down to 11.3-11.5 at around 129-130 or so. Also, another thing ur forgetting is the 997 GT3 which is going to probably be faster than a z06 as well. Porsche is the best of all worlds.

 

However, lightly modded GT2s have been known to pull 10+ cars on C6 Z06s from a short roll from 50 to about 180.

 

The same can be said for a 996TT with a turbo swap and supporting mods as well. Run an exhaust/header/cam C6 Z06 (lightly modded) against a lightly modded GT2. I truly believe that a new, 997TT will need nothing short of intake/exhaust/chip to hang with and/or barely pull a stock C6 Z06 given the gearing, weight, and drivetrain of the Porsche. You are looking at a car that weighs over 400lbs more than the C6 Z06, has shorter gears, and less horsepower.

 

Ahh the Gt2 would win by 6 car lenghts?

 

Not quite. Here is just one dyno with very BASIC mods:

A Z06 with a Stage 1 Cam and Kooks 1 7/8" Headers. He put down 504rwhp, 485rwtq (stock was 456rwhp, 427rwtq).

That's damn impressive for just headers and cams.

 

Here you go, gentlemen...

Here is a bone stock C6 Z06 vs a Viper SRT-10 (with exhaust) from a roll. Both are 500hp+ cars (the Viper even more so being that it has an exhaust). The Vette is nothing short of incredible.

http://www.spdkilz.org/Video-Audio/C...ViperSRT10.wmv

A bone stock 997TT won't be able to handle this car. On a track it will still be a rather large weight and gearing disadvantage (not to mention hp).

 

You have to remember that Porsches have always been known to put power to the wheels better than any car out there (i.e. rear engine). Look at the 996 turbos. They still weighed about 300+ lbs more than the z06 and only had 10 more hp and 15 lb/ft more torque and were still fast and trapped faster.

996 turbo
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...tml?page=4&c=y

z06
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...tml?page=3&c=y

 

A. Gearing was key. The 996TT did not trap faster. They were typically about 1-2mph behind in terms of trap speed (114-116 for the TT vs 115-117 for the Z06 on average). I ran a few different 405hp C5 Z06s from a roll and never once did I pull one. In fact, I was barely pulled each time (and I have a strong 996TT given my 12.2 @ 116.25mph 1/4 mile time with just exhaust). Mag tests don't mean as much to me as real-world racing experience (both personally what I have run and what I have witnessed from friends). Remember, the C5 Z06's gearing was ****ty. It was slower (172mph) on the top end than the standard C5 (about 174mph) because of gearing. With a 400lb difference, a gearing disadvantage (the new Z06 will run to ~61mph in 1st) and at least 25hp less, the 997TT will not hold up to the new Z06. Just look at the 477hp GT2 vs the C6 Z06. There is about a 4-5mph trap speed difference if I remember correctly. That is a HUGE difference when you get up into the 120mph+ trap speeds.

B. The C5 Z06 and 996TT both ran the exact same time at the 'ring.

 

You obviously didnt look at the test. 12.39@118.43 for the 911 turbo and 12.53@115 for the z06. the 911 trapped faster and at a faster ET. so dont try telling me they trap slower. there is example. plus, i can guarantee u with me driving a turbo i could pull on a z06, especially from a roll. the z06 is the inferior car. inferior quality, etc. also with the new z06 i have heard they are VERY VERY unstable compared to a Porsche at speeds over 100 mph.

 

Let me just mention that I have seen tests BY PEOPLE in REAL LIFE situations for the 993tt for 11.7@123. that car had AWD and only 424 hp and would absolutely crush the new z06. That 911 turbo is the pinnacle of modern engineering hands down.

 

118mph is Turbo S/X50 speed, not that of a 415hp 996TT. I know what the mag says, but trust me on this one. I wonder if they had an X50'd car and didn't know it. 118.43mph traps in a stock, K-16 turbo'd 996TT ... well, that would be the fastest trap that I have EVER heard of in these cars over the past 5 years... Once again, you can't really trust mag times as they are somtimes "massaged". Remember Motor Trend's 11.91 @ 116mph run for a stock '01 996TT? What you see in person at the drag strip is more of a real world indication. What you experience first hand while doing highway runs is even more so. As for questioning my ability to run a Z06, I have plenty of drag racing time under my belt. I find it highly odd that you could pull the Z06 driving my car, yet I couldn't. Perhaps you are commenting on my driving ability. It seems rather cocky of you. Interesting...

 

So wait... You are telling me that a 408hp (stock) 993TT gained 8-10mph in its trap speed with only a gain of 16hp (424hp)????

As for the Z06, it's going to take more than 123mph traps to run even with the new Z06, much less catch it. Listen, I agree that 911 turbo is the pinnacle of engineering hands down, but in terms of performance, the C6 Z06 wins in way too many categories to be overlooked.