Hey. just installed the porsche short shifter (i guess its the same as the b&m)
first impressions is that the shifts are so much crisper and shorter. Wow. Should have done this along time ago. Very happy overall with the performance and feel.


One problem im having, and trying to figure out if this is normal..is that 1 out of 15 shifts from Nuetral to 1st, are popping back to nuetral.
initially it feels like the lever is pushed all the way in 1st gear, but then i give some gas and notice that its in N. same things sometimes going from 1 to 2 or 2 to 3. seems like the lever is all the way in, but the symptoms are saying taht it wasnt pushed all the way in, hence popping to Neutral.
when going from 2nd to 3rd, sometimes i cant find 3rd initially and it gives me resistance. then i try to put it in 3rd again and find it.

again, in the 2 days i had this installed, 1 out of 15 shifts, im encoutering these minor problems.

is it normal that you have to be alot more percise with finding the gears... are "openings" for the gears getting smaller with SS installed.

also, should i adjust something. anything to check. i installed everything per the instruction manual. i have the front threaded bolt tightened so that its not loose, but not too tight, only hand tightened.

overall things are great. shifting feels notchier (just a bit more than stock) but way shorter, way crisper, makes the overall driving experience so much better.

im just trying to make sure if this is normal...just needs moregetting used to the new device, rather than it being installed wrong.

 

You need to adjust the cables slightly at the shifter.

 

doc, how do you go about doin this adjustment

also, just got back in from another 20 min drive....

popped out of 1st gear twice...

it pops out when im depressing the clutch..basically when going from Neutral to 1st...

popps right out after the engagement.

 

yah, those cables need to be adjusted. the screws allow you to adjust them forward/backward. It sounds like you are too much one way or the other. Did you mark the screws before you dissassembled the old shifter?

 

i did not mark the screws before i dissasembled them. Was not in the instructions to do so.

are you refering to the cables that snap into the "spring". If so is "adjusting" them moving them a centimeter forward or backwards?

 

Yeah, not normal, cable adjustment. Try one notch forward first, if not, then two notches back.

 

i moved it a notch backwards... just drove and shifted from N to 1st to 2nd many times...

no popping problems.... hopefully that should do it.
another thing i noticed is that between the 2 bushings the unit slides backwards/forwards maybe 3mm maybe when the unit slid backwards, that caused it to be in a "popping out of 1st position"

how do i correct this.
thanks.

 

Air, I have the same shifter and guess I'd have to agree with above but would like to add this......My car when shifted several times into first got neutral only and several times 2nd to 3rd as you said. Found out my slave cylinder was leaking....just something else to check!!!

 

Hey. tom.

it cant be the slave cylinder because the problem only started after the install of the shifter.

 

To stop the bushing sliding, you need to screw in the large silver allen set screw (the one with the nut that you tighten down) a little bit. Sorry about the late response, I was running out the door after my first post. Sounds like you got the cable adjusted correctly though.

Here is my tutorial that I did on the install. The 3rd picture from the end of the post shows the allen screw (allen wrench is hanging out of it in the picture). Don't tighten it down too hard, or it will not want to spring side to side like it should.

http://www.turbo911.com/showthread.php?t=282

 

doc, thanks for the tutorial.

from your pictures, the cables sit high on the threaded area.

actually i notice the left and right cable at the same threaded level, and they both sit high.

should i try this combination.

do both have to be on the same threaded level. as if the left is 3 cm high, should the right be just as high?

the way i changed mine is that its very low. should i switch it up?
thanks

 

I think there are going to be minor differences between every car. I mark the cables when I remove them, so i can get them close on reinstallation, then make some minor tweeks from there. I don't think the cables being even is an issue, but I have never really paid attention to their relation to each other in the past. I have installed a ton of these things and have never noticed, lol.

 

thanks doc I wish the instructions would have told me to mark them off. what I did this morning was tighten the front bolt so that the lever didn't move forward/backwards anymore. at that point it was so tight that the lever wouldn't automatically come back to neutral when it comes to side to side movements. then I loosened the bolt half a turn so that it still doesn't move backward/forward, but now its loose enough to swing back to neutral without effort. I think I got this part done right. what are the indications that the cables are in the right places? everything seems to go into the right gear, feels good as well. you mentioned you make adjustments after the install, what are you basing the cable adjustments after. thanks

 

You can sit there and run the shifter through the gears berfore you put the console back together, if it feels like it slides into gear far enough, then you are probably good. Then put her back together and take it for a spin!

 

doc, i tightened everything up.
the reason why it was popping out of gear is because their was some up/down play of the shifter assembly. basically as i was shifting the whole assembley would move up down a cm or two...
after reinstalling the shifter and making sure i tightned the bolt, and that thier is no more play forward/backwards everything seems fine.
in a few days the lever didnt pop out of any gear.

the only problem that still exists is that its a bit harder to find 3rd gear sometimes.
is it just me not being used to the shifter.
lets just say , to confirm the alignment of the shifter, that if the car is in N, and i push the shift **** strait forward it will be in third gear.
feels smooth and perfectly normal. however when going 2nd to 3rd, once in 5 shifts i cant find the gear...it doesnt go into 3rd

is the left adjustment cable perhaps a bit off? is it normal to have to be more accurate after installing a SS.
thanks.