What cars can beat a 996 Twin Turbo with Stage IV?
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Originally posted by allanlambo
I just noticed you have a Ruf Turbo. If this is the car youre talking about racing the Diablo with, then of course you will smoke the Diablo. Big difference between an X-50 and a Ruf. But your not comparing stock to stock in this case.
Id race you though...
There will be an X50 at the day and also an 420bhp turboOriginally posted by allanlambo
I just noticed you have a Ruf Turbo. If this is the car youre talking about racing the Diablo with, then of course you will smoke the Diablo. Big difference between an X-50 and a Ruf. But your not comparing stock to stock in this case.
Id race you though...
Also our car is stock
I'm glad you would race us, SV's are quick but not that quick though...
all the best
adam
My Sv would eat your Ruf up.
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Originally posted by allanlambo
My Sv would eat your Ruf up.
WHy don't you go toot your horn in some lamborghini forum, or did they ban you too.Originally posted by allanlambo
My Sv would eat your Ruf up.
Overall, your lamborghini is an inferior product to RUF or even Porsche IMHO.
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Originally posted by allanlambo
Heres just a quick look at 2003 Gt2, 600miles. MSRP 189,000 buy it now for 155,000. Obviously you can buy it for less. Not bad 40,000 loss in a few months. So what do you think you can buy 02 Gt2's for that have been driven?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2462853742
Ellen, You are qouting the best times ever recorded for the Murci. Check out what happened when c/d test the 4000+ Originally posted by allanlambo
Heres just a quick look at 2003 Gt2, 600miles. MSRP 189,000 buy it now for 155,000. Obviously you can buy it for less. Not bad 40,000 loss in a few months. So what do you think you can buy 02 Gt2's for that have been driven?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2462853742
Murci and compared it to the GT2:"You’ll be saying hello to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds, equaling what a Porsche 911 GT2 can muster and 0.1 second quicker than a Dodge Viper. The quarter-mile slips past in 12.6 seconds at 116 mph, same as a Ferrari 575M."
All that huge performance advantage for the extra $200k in price

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Originally posted by allanlambo
Again, the Murcielago IS quicker than the GT2, and the faster you go the more evident it is. I already said that the Gt2 is a better track car, didnt i?
Are you talking about the guy with a countach who bought a 996TT? I would hope that a 2001 TT could beat a car that was designed in the early 1970's on a track.
As for your high speed runs, ive been in both at very high speed and the Lambo is much more stable.
As for speed for long periods, Lambo World Record:
http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/News/Record.html
Yeah, much faster and quickerOriginally posted by allanlambo
Again, the Murcielago IS quicker than the GT2, and the faster you go the more evident it is. I already said that the Gt2 is a better track car, didnt i?
Are you talking about the guy with a countach who bought a 996TT? I would hope that a 2001 TT could beat a car that was designed in the early 1970's on a track.
As for your high speed runs, ive been in both at very high speed and the Lambo is much more stable.
As for speed for long periods, Lambo World Record:
http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/News/Record.html
From C/D-----------
Turbo X50 0-60 3.9 1/4 mile 11.9
GT2 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 11.8
Lambo Murci 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 12.6
price $375k
4000+lb car that handles great??

I don’t know why you guys are getting into a pissing contest over Lambos and Porsche, they are two completely different cars, Porsche = great performance, ok style at a fair price. Lambo = great performance, over the top “Look at me Please” Styling at an outrageously high price.
It all comes down to, what is really important to you, performance and value or performance and the added exotic flare (this comes at a premium, of course).
It all comes down to, what is really important to you, performance and value or performance and the added exotic flare (this comes at a premium, of course).
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Originally posted by ShankGT2
WHy don't you go toot your horn in some lamborghini forum, or did they ban you too.
Overall, your lamborghini is an inferior product to RUF or even Porsche IMHO.
haha You wish!Originally posted by ShankGT2
WHy don't you go toot your horn in some lamborghini forum, or did they ban you too.
Overall, your lamborghini is an inferior product to RUF or even Porsche IMHO.

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Originally posted by LSM
Yeah, much faster and quicker
From C/D-----------
Turbo X50 0-60 3.9 1/4 mile 11.9
GT2 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 11.8
Lambo Murci 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 12.6
price $375k
4000+lb car that handles great??
Originally posted by LSM
Yeah, much faster and quicker
From C/D-----------
Turbo X50 0-60 3.9 1/4 mile 11.9
GT2 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 11.8
Lambo Murci 0-60 3.8 1/4 mile 12.6
price $375k
4000+lb car that handles great??
How you can only use Car and Driver which admitted that they drove a 25,000 mile VERY well worn demo car with a shifter problem? so the Murci is now 375K? Funny, last time i checked they were 275K. Does it handle great for a 3800pd car? Yes it does. Please dont try to get into weight arguements with 3400+ pd Porsche, thats half the size of the lambo.
Dont forget to factor into the Murci price exclusivity, looks and feel. Everytime you are behind the wheel of a Lambo it is a special occasion. Porsche becomes just another car.
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Originally posted by allanlambo
How you can only use Car and Driver which admitted that they drove a 25,000 mile VERY well worn demo car with a shifter problem?
so the Murci is now 375K? Funny, last time i checked they were 275K. Does it handle great for a 3800pd car? Yes it does. Please dont try to get into weight arguements with 3400+ pd Porsche, thats half the size of the lambo.
Dont forget to factor into the Murci price exclusivity, looks and feel. Everytime you are behind the wheel of a Lambo it is a special occasion. Porsche becomes just another car.
Ellen, keep asking for more proof, I'll produce the tests one at a time for you. Here you go:Originally posted by allanlambo
How you can only use Car and Driver which admitted that they drove a 25,000 mile VERY well worn demo car with a shifter problem? so the Murci is now 375K? Funny, last time i checked they were 275K. Does it handle great for a 3800pd car? Yes it does. Please dont try to get into weight arguements with 3400+ pd Porsche, thats half the size of the lambo.
Dont forget to factor into the Murci price exclusivity, looks and feel. Everytime you are behind the wheel of a Lambo it is a special occasion. Porsche becomes just another car.
Lamborghini Porsche
Testing Date 6/2002 6/2001
Engine 6192 cccm, 12 Zyl , 48 V 3600 cccm, 6 Zyl , 24 V
Power 580 PS (426 KW) 462 PS (340 KW) @ 5700/min
Torque 650 Nm @ 5400/min 620 Nm @ 3500/min
Transmission 0 (6) 0 (6)
Weight 1820 Kg 1450 Kg
Weight / BhP 3,4 Kg / PS 3,13 Kg/ PS
0 - 100 Km/h 3,9 s 4 s
0 - 200 Km/h 12,8 s 12,4 s
0 - 200-0 Km/h 17,8 s 17,4 s
Top Speed 330 Km/h 320 Km/h
80 - 120 Km/h 4.Gear 5,4 s 3,3 s
100 - 0 Km/h hot 36,4 m , 10,6 m/s 36,1 m , 10,7 m/s
Transverse Acceleration 1,2 g 1,35 g
Slalom Course 36 / 110 124 / 138 Km/h 128 / 154 Km/h
Round Time Nuerburgring 7.50 min 7.46 min
Round Time Hockenheim 1.12 min 1.12,6 min
I stand correct, these numbers really show of where that extra $125k you spend for a Murci really go. Must be performance and handling

Dont forget to factor into the Murci price exclusivity, looks and feel. Everytime you are behind the wheel of a Lambo it is a special occasion.
Ellen, I agree with some of your assessments. Hell we argue all day why one should buy a Carrera over a z06. My point is, teh Lambo is a great car and of coarse I it would draw all kinds of attention as it is a great looking car(Murcielago, not Gallardo imo), but, once the luster wears off, at the end of the day, the GT2 performs better and has proven relaibility, the same cannot be said for any Lambo. Of coarse that is not the Lambo's goal. You must admit you are really an anamoly in the Lambo world. Not many Lambo owners are true entusiats much less use their cars daily.
Lou
Ellen, I agree with some of your assessments. Hell we argue all day why one should buy a Carrera over a z06. My point is, teh Lambo is a great car and of coarse I it would draw all kinds of attention as it is a great looking car(Murcielago, not Gallardo imo), but, once the luster wears off, at the end of the day, the GT2 performs better and has proven relaibility, the same cannot be said for any Lambo. Of coarse that is not the Lambo's goal. You must admit you are really an anamoly in the Lambo world. Not many Lambo owners are true entusiats much less use their cars daily.
Lou
Ok, ill have to go home and dig out my magazines for you.
As for where that 125K goes, drive next to a Murci a Diablo or even an old Countach, and you will know, when during that same time, you would feel as though youre driving in a 69 Beetle.
As for where that 125K goes, drive next to a Murci a Diablo or even an old Countach, and you will know, when during that same time, you would feel as though youre driving in a 69 Beetle.



