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Old 01-31-2007, 10:18 AM
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Why is GAIC so much more than UPSOLUTE?

I am getting ready to purchase a reflash for the 996 TT.
Why should I pay $2000 for GAIC when I can pay $700 for the Upsolute?
 
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:37 AM
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Hi. I have been running an Upsolute chip for years, happily and successfully,
but I see an added value to the GIAC program and dealers. The GIAC
dealers are active in this group and provide easily tailored services for
multiple levels of modification. If you're going to be satisfied with
performance one cut or two above the stock 996tt, then Upsolute is
a cost-effective answer. Just add a Europipe II, EVO diverter valves
and EVO hoses. Once you want to go higher, you'll want to get a
U.S.-based development package, and if you started with GIAC, you
can save some with the upgrade...
To be fair, in the first year or two of chip-tuning options, Upsolute
had some problem with their X50 program and some customers got CELs
etc, but I haven't heard of any such for the last few years, and as I
said, I have had no problem since 2001 and an update a year or so ago.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:43 AM
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You dont "have" too. The GIAC is involved with extensive R+D and experience, especially with higher levels of mods.
If you are just going to flash the ECU it will be OK...............for now.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:48 AM
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I've had the Upsolute flash from Vivid Racing for a few months now and am very happy with the results.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:34 PM
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I am getting ready to do Upsolute. I dont hang with the Stage II / III / IV crowd so that is more than I will need.
 
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I had the upsolute chip in my TT when i had it. Then switched to GIAC and noticed a huge difference in power. It was worth the extra money..
 
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I've had my upsolute for afew months and have been very happy with the results also
 
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Originally Posted by habitat
I had the upsolute chip in my TT when i had it. Then switched to GIAC and noticed a huge difference in power. It was worth the extra money..
Hi. I'm always interested in more power... How long ago was this,
and is yours a k16 or k24?
thanks
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Weinstein
Hi. I'm always interested in more power... How long ago was this,
and is yours a k16 or k24?
thanks
Joe
It was like 2 to 3 years ago. Times probably have changed by now. But i really noticed a difference. I was really happy with the car after i made the change..
 
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For basic power levels Upsolute is fine. I would also look at Protomotive.
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 12:37 AM
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I have the upsolute for more than 1 year now,great power,never problems,had 2 new updates for free,we measured air fuel and everything seems to be perfekt.I've changed my k16 with k16/24 and they wrote me a new update for 1.2 bar,also for free and it works great....
 
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Habitat,

Is it safe to assume you are talking about "seat of the pants" power?

Or did you document some before and afters with a driftbox or Ax-22?

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I agree with Woodster. Unless there is numerical proof, for a simple Stage 1 or 2, I'm hard pressed to believe that GIAC is better than Upsolute!

Show me the data!

Woodster, +1 for you
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:52 AM
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With the 1.0 bar program from upsolute we measured with a G TECH PRO RR device,I believe it's almost simular with the ax-22 and we had 502 hp,this was with the standard K16.
Whe didn't measure it already with the K16/24 because I had to order the 1.0 bar wastegate frok KKK because with the original wastegate we can't hold 1.2 bar boost..Will let you know when I receive the 1.0 bar wastegate,will post hp and air fuel ratio.....
 
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So who's doing this "r & d" dixie? sounds fun
 


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