I am not in Philly but I am in central VA if you ever get down this way you are welcome to take my Protomotive 24/18 for a spin.

 

Wow, you're only 125 miles NW of me. I'm in Hampton Roads.

 

Cool I am in Powhatan County about 20 miles west of Richmond. When is your "under construction" car going to be finished? That should be a MONSTER!

 

I should have it back mid-March or so. Let me know if you're ever out my way. I'll take you for a ride.

 

Call PES they are in the Philly area and may have a customer with a GT700 you could get a ride in.

http://www.pes-tuning.com/

 

Scott I will do so. I plan on getting out that way to check out the new Ducati 1098's at Redline Performance in Yorktown. later, John

 

My UMW K16/24 hybrids are great but the air-fuel ratios are a bit rich due to the fact that there's no GIAC program designed specifically for the turbo set-up. Is there a solution?

 

I am located in North Jersey and recently got the Proto K24/18G kit installed. PM me if you'd like to go for a ride.

 

Britt,

Kevin at UMW has a pocket programmer and the programs now specifically
designed for the turbos that you have, I would call him directly to discuss.

MK

 

We have to have a dyno day soon to set the record straight.

I've driven in a bunch of cars with various hybrid turbos, and I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

Boys, you can't get around the laws of physics. Either it spools later and makes power up top, or spools early and with more low end punch. That's the bottom line.

Also, where are all the dyno plots with overlays? I want to see these hybrids "with little to no lag." How is that even possible?

We have access to all of these turbos, but for us, you can't beat a set of K24's for a solid 600hp.

If there was another turbo out there, we would be selling it.

I would like to see a video of some 3rd or 4th gear pulls between two cars on the highway.

Once the weather warms up, we are going to have a dyno shoot out.

Sound good?

 

are the hybrids more likely to fail then the k24s?

 

Yes, sounds great! There will be a lot of variance between setups (different exhausts, ICs, etc) but having them done at the same facility, same dyno, same technician, and same day is an excellent idea.

 

regulated AFR

 

Closed loop or open loop AFR?

 

Mike, looks like today is your lucky day. Here is all the data you requested. A head to head dyno plot with UMW stg2 ZC hybrids against a GIAC STG4 with upgraded WG's on the exact same Mustang dyno at the same facility here in MI.Both cars were running pump gas files at the time and I am sure a race file would be even better. The owner of the Stg4 is a fellow 6speeder and happens to be the dyno operator at this facility. There is no magic beyond well engineered hybrids and programming specifically written to those exact turbos.I have posted my dyno run and the dyno run log in 100rpm intervals. The other sheet is the stage4. I also included an Excel spreadsheet comparing both runs in 100 rpm interval. As you can see it isnt even close. Significantly more HP and TQ down low and higher TQ and HP up high as well with better peak numbers.I also included my posted trap of 128.2 mph in a 3760 lb AWD TT. Most straight stg4's with full weight are trapping 124-126mph in the 1/4. You can also check the 60-130 standings as well and see that my hybrids did a 7.93 whereas the nearest K24 car was a Revo at 9.5 secs. At the 600 crank HP level there really is no downside to a hybrid.It is cheaper than a stg4 as well. Anyway, hope this clears up any of your confusion on hybrids. All this data has been posted previously, just have to go look for it. Looking forward to the results from your dyno day ...Kevin