996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Will I regret selling the M?

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
I miss my M3 tons! Everytime i get into a stock one i still fall in love and have so much fun with it, thing is, it will never ever replace my old 996TT i stepped up to, and i wont even mention the GT2
Yeah but Martin, you've mentioned that the experience in the GT2 is closer to your SC'ed M3 than your RWD 996tt, right? And with your GT2, being the GT2 that it is, I'd go to AA if I was the buyer rather than pick up a 996tt.
 
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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I changed from this


to this (still stock though..)


And i dont regret it at all... M cars are wonderfull but Porsche is the way to go..
 
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
hey man...i call em how i see em. the m3 is good, but no 911. everyone, including myself who has had an m3 or 3 series coupe has had the window trim fall off. never had a prob like that in my C4. i dont think window trim should be falling off on a $60K car. i do think the 997 interior is better than the 996 though.
yep my passenger window trim fell off as well in my m3 - outta warrenty too and was around 500 to fix believe it or not

and im not comparing car terms, just interiors - 911 996 is superior in just about everyway except interior in my eyes, the 997 fixed that problem - i acutally love the 997 interior, its very very nice - but again i think the 996 interior is one of the worst in an import car...period
 
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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TT > M3 in every respect. However every ex M3 owner I speak to has a soft spot for that car (including me). There is something very special about the E46 M3... I can't wait to try the new V8. Maybe a V8 M3 as the daily and the TT in the garage?

Bottom line is that it's very hard to beat the M3s daily driver / warranty / free maintenance / track car / back seats / price combo...

I hear you on the door trim. Every summer when it gets over 100 degress the damn glue fails... there could be a bigger a much achile's heel though...
 

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
i like you scott, but youre crazy! the interior of my m3 IS in fact cinnamon, but its not nearly as nice as what has been in either of my dad's two 996TT's. the 996 has nicer leather, its fully wrapped in leather from the dash throughout the whole car and just feels more solid. the m3 feels solid but there a ton of room for improvement. the 911 turbo to me is worth every penny new as its got the supercar performance, amazing build quality, fit and finish for a king, and looks that are sexy and unique to 911s. i miss my 911 a lot, but the m3 is pretty damn fun, i must admit, although, the turbo is such a blast to drive, its addicting!
You're entitled to your opinion Greg. Thats cool with me. I'm just saying for $125K WITHOUT FULL LEATHER the interior of my '03 996tt is nowhere near as nice as that in a $55K '05 BMW M3. Tap on the dashboard of the Pcar and then do the same test on the M3. Hell, my '01 M3 had nicer and more modern interior appointments than my '03 996tt. I'm not saying the 996tt interior is junk because it isn't and it does feel rock solidly assembled. I'm saying it should be a helluva lot better for $125K. The 997tt interior looks and feels like it should for the price tag that comes with it which is that much higher than the sticker on the 996tt brand new.

If you think this (with modifications like carbon fiber shifter/ebrake and painted rear center console which are not included for $125K)



Looks better than this



you must be the crazy one Greg.

At the end of the day, if you can get past what I would call taking a step back on the interior, a used 996tt is a helluva car and even moreso for what they are selling for these days. Performance and fun factor is considerably better in the Pcar.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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My M....damn I miss her...





and now this:



much more modding to come....it has just started....

I think it is hard to compare the two, they are in two different categories but I do love the move to the 996TT....simply AMAZING....
 
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
hey man...i call em how i see em. the m3 is good, but no 911. everyone, including myself who has had an m3 or 3 series coupe has had the window trim fall off. never had a prob like that in my C4. i dont think window trim should be falling off on a $60K car. i do think the 997 interior is better than the 996 though.
My window trim fell off as well. I wasn't too happy with the interior of those cars.
 
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 996TTDave
i gotta disagree with you - had an M3 with black nappa and it was the nicest with the best fit/finish of any car i have had and had since

the porsche 996TT interior i had and the 996 C2 interior i have are pale in comparison and just dull and boring, with poor plastics and fit and finish, i have no idea how one can say the opposite, the biggest problem i had when looking for the the 996TT i had was the interior, the 997 is a VAST improvment and a gorgeous example and execution of an interior, the 996 is a toyota designed poor excuse for an interior...
You must have gotten a bad apple because I have never seen poor fit and finish on a recent model year porsche. BUT.....they are dull and boring unless you get a 997 or that chocolate color in the 996.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by amerlemans
You're entitled to your opinion Greg. Thats cool with me. I'm just saying for $125K WITHOUT FULL LEATHER the interior of my '03 996tt is nowhere near as nice as that in a $55K '05 BMW M3. Tap on the dashboard of the Pcar and then do the same test on the M3. Hell, my '01 M3 had nicer and more modern interior appointments than my '03 996tt. I'm not saying the 996tt interior is junk because it isn't and it does feel rock solidly assembled. I'm saying it should be a helluva lot better for $125K. The 997tt interior looks and feels like it should for the price tag that comes with it which is that much higher than the sticker on the 996tt brand new.

If you think this (with modifications like carbon fiber shifter/ebrake and painted rear center console which are not included for $125K)



Looks better than this



you must be the crazy one Greg.

At the end of the day, if you can get past what I would call taking a step back on the interior, a used 996tt is a helluva car and even moreso for what they are selling for these days. Performance and fun factor is considerably better in the Pcar.
i understand where youre coming from. for 120K base on the 996TT, the interior full leather should not have been an option, but they are Porsche and why include it when you can get another 3K for it. thats they way Porsche has always done it. every car is gonna have its complaints, and both of these cars are no exception. either way, we all drive amazing machines. i think the thing i love best about my m3 interior is the color and the very thick steering wheel. cheers scott!
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
My window trim fell off as well. I wasn't too happy with the interior of those cars.
yea, its pretty damn annoying, but luckily, unlike our other member here, mine is going to be replaced under warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by ashokn225
Yeah but Martin, you've mentioned that the experience in the GT2 is closer to your SC'ed M3 than your RWD 996tt, right? And with your GT2, being the GT2 that it is, I'd go to AA if I was the buyer rather than pick up a 996tt.
Yes you are right, in terms of feel, rawness and so on it reminded me of the M3, just x100.. I LOVED the turbo, and if i could do it over again i would still take the 996TT modded over my M3, just different cars but the turbo is a SERIOUS performer with no hesitations, the M3 simply isnt a replacement car IMO to t hese types of cars, best to add one along side to compliment each other
 
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Yes you are right, in terms of feel, rawness and so on it reminded me of the M3, just x100.. I LOVED the turbo, and if i could do it over again i would still take the 996TT modded over my M3, just different cars but the turbo is a SERIOUS performer with no hesitations, the M3 simply isnt a replacement car IMO to t hese types of cars, best to add one along side to compliment each other
well said brother!
 
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Originally Posted by KJM3SMG
you'll miss the backseats and the relative anonymity of the M3... but that's about it. 996TT is superior in every other way... wish I had done it sooner
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I had an M3 just before I bought the TT. two different cars... no comparison.
did I regret that I sold my M3... not a chance.
The M3 was underpowered for me. I wish that thing was turbocharged.
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I had an M3 just before I bought the TT. two different cars... no comparison.
did I regret that I sold my M3... not a chance.
The M3 was underpowered for me. I wish that thing was turbocharged.
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LOL1 hell, mark, a CGT is underpowered at this point for you!
 


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