Just curious if anyone sells tuning software for these cars?

I've been giving some thought to picking up a 996tt but I would prefer to be able to tune/scan it myself. If I had to send the ECU out for a reflash after each modification I would be much less interested.

 

Here we go again...

The short, direct answer is "no, not to you". Vishnu is cooking up a piggyback box that will have some tuning ***** for you to turn, but I don't think it's on the market yet.

The good news is the that Durametric scanning/logging software is pretty close to what you're used to.

So c'mon, jump in! I sold a mid-9s Vortech-blown LT1 Camaro to get my tt.

Jeff

 

Hmm, well without a tuning solution I'm not so inclined to "jump in"

I don't leave anything stock for long and the thought of paying someone else to do the tuning over and over isn't really appealing to me.

 

Jim most of the mod's that you do bolt on wise can be done on a basic flash tune. When you change turbo's though is where the big tuning charges come. I know if you get one those won't stay stock very long either.

BTW the turbo kit Jeff (inspector12) bought from you is one of the cleanest setups I've ever seen on a LS1!

 

Yeah, I would likely rebuild the entire turbo system. After being mentioned by MidnighTT I did read a bit about the piggyback setup Vishnu is doing. It's a workable solution but I would prefer to make changes within the factory ECU. (though it seems that isn't an option right now)


Thank you sir, I appreciate the kind words.

 

no we do not have that ability.... when I get my car back from tulsa in a week u can meet up with me and see how a 9 second P car feels like... then u can decide if u want to continue or not...

 

Revo has a software package like you are seeking.......hook it up to a laptop to change parameters.

 

From what I was told it is very limited in use... if u try to go past certain parameters it will switch maps on you... you see u need certain security codes to get around these things.... then to complicate things even more... You need the hardcore stuff to be able to do what you want it to do... maybe its good for 500 rwhp but anything beyond that I would not be so sure.
My friend uses the Revo stuff on Audi's but its very limited in use...
markski

 

Just by the real tuning software. It is not hard to get. There are a handful of major players...it will cost you about 15K for the base tuning software then you will need the Damos files which will cost you as well. No one is keping anyone from anything. It is just not cheap and even if you do buy it there are more maps then you can imagine in there. Witout the Damos files you are sunk.

 

Markski- Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on that

PorschePhd- If I was looking to tune Porsches for profit than 15k+ would be a good investment. I would only be interested in tuning my own vehicle so I could not justify that cost.

 

How does the setup of this software compare to how the Haltech or Motec software work? Is it in a similar fashion? Or is it just all tables? Etc.

 

Perhaps my first reply should have been "no, not to you, the end user". I expect the most recent GM ECU for the LS motor rivals what we have in the 996 in terms of complexity. Yes, there is no variocam, but I don't expect it to take very long on a load dyno to dial that in. OTOH, the LS ECU has PID idle control that can be bewildering for those who don't have a solid foundation in internal combustion theory and application. Throw a big cam at this ECU and you'll never achieve a stable idle if you don't understand PID control theory.

But there are some serious, well educated hobbiests out there, and I'm one who would snap up a single-VIN tuning solution if it were priced below a kilobuck.

Jeff

 

If it were priced like that there would be alot of people who would pick it up right away.

 

It is not like the GM ECUs, as far as complexity, you can look at the files until you are blue in the face and unless you have the complete program and the interpretation of the hex addresses forget. As far as complexity, well the original programming by Bosch became so complicated that software had to be written to just get start up. Form there was 100 hours on the engine dyno, then the street tuning. The newest of the TTs are 3 times more complicated than the 996TT. In addition to the software you will also need the ability to write to it, that is a whole separate subject. Bottom line a serious hobbyist is probably not going to be able to pull this off.

No, it is nothing like Motec or Haltec hence why so many people like to think piggy back is the way to go. The programs in the car are too smart and will stop you shy of 600HP FWIW.
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Intimidate:

I do not know the answer to your question but the guys that do have already responded (P-Doc, and Markski). Take a ride in Markski's car,
it will really be interesting for you. I see you like throwing blowers on
GM products!! Nice and the 0-199 in a Mile is very very fast!

Good luck,

Marty K.