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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 09:15 AM
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i also could be a source of last resort if it comes to it, as my tech has near rollers in his place of business and could I'm sure grab a set. no one would would miss em. would be a hassle but well worth it if toth makes em and we can get em. again last resort as unlike 32 they aren't in my garage.

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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
mine are still on the car . i was a bit concerned about pulling them off but john has been a great help to me and the other members on here so i was willing to try. if you want to send yours I'm fine with that. as long as john and joe get what they need . ask john and what ever he wants is fine with me.

Yeah, that is what I was thinking - and why I offered. Plus since mine are not going back on a particular car and will likely need to be repainted anyway, a scratch here or there would not be the end of the world.

pwdrhound, pm me the details and I will check shipping tomorrow or Tues at the latest.
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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Maybe Im missing something but wouldnt it be better to just redo the entire IC intake to be a widemouth opening? Of course, it might just be because I havent completely woken up yet...
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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I'd be interested as well but would like to see prove of flow(or a proven IAT reduction) at big speeds. Always awesome to see continued development on older platforms
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
probably won't work with engine fan since it doesn't run when the car is in motion. its more designed to pull heat once the motor is turned off. simple on/off switch is all thats needed. flip when you start the road course flip it off when does. or have the proefi run them based on iat temps
engine fan run with low speed all time
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by su_maverick
Maybe Im missing something but wouldnt it be better to just redo the entire IC intake to be a widemouth opening? Of course, it might just be because I havent completely woken up yet...
I was wondering the same thing. Also, easy to revert to stock if desired. I'd like to see this more than I would stick- ons.

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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by winnigt2
engine fan run with low speed all time
mine never did. it typically runs when a certain temp in the engine bay is reached. either in traffic or when stopped or engine shutdown. if yours is running all the time you may want to check the probe and see if it has fallen into the engine behind the p/s pump
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by stevemfr
That is quite possible, though I have a hard time imagining it would help anyone except drag racers; if you're in traffic or around town you will not be on boost and not be heating the ICs. And once you start rolling, even higher temps would drop in seconds once the flow of air increases.

Drag racers on the other hand, heating the tires, reversing, staging... It's quite conceivable that by the time IC temps drop it'd all be over
Not really, I have a guage monitoring ACT ( I believe from map sensor) and it will creep up from a normal (cruising on highway ambient at 25 degrees C)40C up to 50C (some of this will be engine heat soak as well but thats the temp at the sensor in the Y pipe.

I can also see it being handy for cars that hit the dyno on a regular basis.

i will combine the fans with my idea of CO2 cooling each IC and water meth and the ducts and see where we are at
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by stevemfr
Yeah, that is what I was thinking - and why I offered. Plus since mine are not going back on a particular car and will likely need to be repainted anyway, a scratch here or there would not be the end of the world.

pwdrhound, pm me the details and I will check shipping tomorrow or Tues at the latest.
I have one for sure and maybe a pair if they are needed
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
mine never did. it typically runs when a certain temp in the engine bay is reached. either in traffic or when stopped or engine shutdown. if yours is running all the time you may want to check the probe and see if it has fallen into the engine behind the p/s pump
nothing def it is correct that it runs in low speed / if not something is def

not only at my car the engine hood fan run with low speed if the engine runs at idle
 

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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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I'm interested!

One thing to note, I've had my car pulled apart for an intercooler install. Tough as hell getting them to seal and as a curiosity I checked my other side which hasn't been touched since manufacture - there's a small gap between the top duct and the duct from the body opening! I've managed to get my side with the larger intercooler nearly sealed and can probably complete the seal with some thick foam. Check your existing seals, you might be surprised to find that the ducts aren't completely sealed from the factory!

Larger ducts can't hurt and even if air does leak the higher flow would certainly help. Temp sensed fans and whatnot aren't a great idea IMO as there's hysteresis involved. It's tough triggering things like spray systems etc. to try and cool as well due to this. Autospeed in AU did testing of this, it's a hard problem to solve.
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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You can count me in for a set, if your test data supports.
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Interested to see what these end up looking like and if there would be an appreciable difference on stock ICs.
 
Old Jul 20, 2015 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny.dangerous
...cruising on highway ambient at 25 degrees C...
This might be, but as I was saying earlier, I seriously doubt you will be able to increase airflow at those speeds (highway = 50mph for you?)

Originally Posted by johnny.dangerous
I can also see it being handy for cars that hit the dyno on a regular basis.
This is the best example of what I am talking about: I have seen large 220V powered squirrel cage blowers with and w/o ducting directly to the IC inlet or outlet (blowing through backwards) that barely do the job for 1 run with a cool down period after. I just do not see a 12V fan that will help.

Another thing to consider is that a fan will add drag for any airflow at higher speeds.

Prove me wrong, but intuitively I'd dismiss this path before spending any time on it.
 
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I'd be interested but not with an add on rather the same as Manthey had previously. It needs to look factory. While we are on the subject anyone want to send a gt2 wing to Joe so he can have a gurney flap or wicker made for me
 


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