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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gophaster
Just as a reference to compare with pwdrhounds pics...here is a 991 Turbo...they are way out there to catch max air...

Exactly my point. Even on the 997TT, they are much more pronounced than on our cars.
 
Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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+1, yup they make ours look tiny!!!

Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Exactly my point. Even on the 997TT, they are much more pronounced than on our cars.
 
Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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In the next month, I will have a Motec data logger / dash installed on the car... I will PM you Joe's address a few minutes. I sent you a PM earlier which I assume you received. Thanks Steve...
You have mail.

Motec... You're going all out.
 
Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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You have mail.

Motec... You're going all out.
Yes sir. Email sent. Thanks Steve!
 
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Originally Posted by gophaster
+1, yup they make ours look tiny!!!
You can barely see them if you are looking at it from the front.. look like little slits.

 
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IIRC, the 991TT IC ducting is actually fairly small despite the 'scoop' being more pronounced
 
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Originally Posted by 993GT
IIRC, the 991TT IC ducting is actually fairly small despite the 'scoop' being more pronounced
This is most likely done to increase the speed of airflow over the IC. By enlarging our intakes, we would effectively be doing the same exact thing.
 
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A lot of great contribution to this thread you have created Pwdrhound.!


If this was me, I would scan the current intake with this cheap scanner,


http://cubify.com/products/isensetechspecs


I would design a formed prototype to the scanned image and double tape a 3d printed prototype to the cars current intake and log the change in intake temps.


Maybe create two models, one very extreme (ugly) and, one at the minimum (very cosmetic.) Swap between both designs within a few runs back to back while logging the Intake temps.


You could also use "flow design" from Autodesk to create a controlled environment simulation but, real time data in this case should suffice with environmental variable's.


Just some of my "Food for thought."
 
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I agree, perhaps testing could measure pressure differential in the duct pre/post IC...and maybe compare with 997 as well to show the variance in flow due to body/duct design, since they share the same IC's....



Originally Posted by pwdrhound
This is most likely done to increase the speed of airflow over the IC. By enlarging our intakes, we would effectively be doing the same exact thing.
 
Old Jul 20, 2015 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by elite1
A lot of great contribution to this thread you have created Pwdrhound.!


If this was me, I would scan the current intake with this cheap scanner,


http://cubify.com/products/isensetechspecs


I would design a formed prototype to the scanned image and double tape a 3d printed prototype to the cars current intake and log the change in intake temps.


Maybe create two models, one very extreme (ugly) and, one at the minimum (very cosmetic.) Swap between both designs within a few runs back to back while logging the Intake temps.


You could also use "flow design" from Autodesk to create a controlled environment simulation but, real time data in this case should suffice with environmental variable's.


Just some of my "Food for thought."
Let's chat this week. I forgot you have access to all that fancy equipment. Might be of some help here. Thanks!! One way to test these would be to install the inlets on only one side of the car and measure the speed/volume of air flowing through each duct. The side with the inlets should show greater flow. If that was the case, we would have a confirmation of a successful outcome as greater air flow = greater cooling = lower IATs! IATs could also be measured on the respective sides post each intercoolers. I think Earl could do this as his car was set up for this during the intercoolers testing he's done.
 
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Not sure how you could measure each IAT bank. I cant with my current setup. It only measures the IAT as a whole prior to the throttle body.


Guess this would be the next question in order, where are the intake temps censored? Does the Maf record this?
 
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Originally Posted by elite1
Not sure how you could measure each IAT bank. I cant with my current setup. It only measures the IAT as a whole prior to the throttle body.


Guess this would be the next question in order, where are the intake temps censored? Does the Maf record this?
Earl had a set up where he had a IAT probe inserted in each side of the Y-pipe so that he could record the IATs on each side to compare the two different intercoolers he was testing. No, you could not do this on a stock set up. I thought IAT was measured at the throttle body but I may be wrong..
 
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Earl had a set up where he had a IAT probe inserted in each side of the Y-pipe so that he could record the IATs on each side to compare the two different intercoolers he was testing. No, you could not do this on a stock set up. I thought IAT was measured at the throttle body but I may be wrong..

Need more info on Earls setup. Sounds great for logging.


on my 997, I have an intake sensor just before the throttle body. Not sure on the 996.
 
Old Jul 21, 2015 | 04:02 AM
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Kinesis 996 is infamous around these parts
interested on a set as well!
 
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
The Manthey IS AN ADD ON. It is make of carbon fibre and attaches with double sided tape. Simply sticks on to the OEM inlets. Look at this pictures in the following link and you will clearly see the outline of the Manthey piece that is stuck on to the OEM inlet. I have confirmed that with them.

http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...docid=88&e1=66
Understand now, thanks. I'm still interested to see what you come up with.
 


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