If you're on Arizona how hot does your car run?
If you're on Arizona how hot does your car run?
Mine goes up to the line past 180, and the Climate Control AC Diagnostics trick shows me running at temps as high as 235 today.
What are your temps?

What are your temps?

Last edited by white99c2; Jul 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM.
Thanks for posting a reply to my question. Does your car recover and cool down when it gets that hot in say 110 degree heat.
If the outside temp holds steady my car gets hot in traffic and at stop lights and does not cool down even if I start moving again.
It will never go past the 3/4 line at the gauge but will never cool down from that point unless I head home to Carefree and the outside temp is cooler. Then it will go down a tick or two.
If I drive south on Scottsdale Road from my house, its 12 miles to the 101 interchange. My gauge will stay right in between the 8 and the 0 in 180. I stop at the light before I get on the 101 and the temp will rise and never go down. This is with CLEAN Radiators, no coolant, I'm running distilled water and Red Line Water Wetter and the radiator fan mod has the fans on both sides on high speed.
It will continue to rise each time I am at a light until it settles in at 3/4 up the gauge as shown in my image.
If the outside temp holds steady my car gets hot in traffic and at stop lights and does not cool down even if I start moving again.
It will never go past the 3/4 line at the gauge but will never cool down from that point unless I head home to Carefree and the outside temp is cooler. Then it will go down a tick or two.
If I drive south on Scottsdale Road from my house, its 12 miles to the 101 interchange. My gauge will stay right in between the 8 and the 0 in 180. I stop at the light before I get on the 101 and the temp will rise and never go down. This is with CLEAN Radiators, no coolant, I'm running distilled water and Red Line Water Wetter and the radiator fan mod has the fans on both sides on high speed.
It will continue to rise each time I am at a light until it settles in at 3/4 up the gauge as shown in my image.
Last edited by white99c2; Jul 18, 2010 at 08:07 AM.
I'll have to pay closer attention, but my cooling system is stock save for new expansion tank and cap. Have had a few leaks over the years but tight as a drum right now.
It's odd that your temperature rises so quickly. How long is the wait at that light?
I drive about 5 miles to 101 every morning, then about 5 miles on 101. Temperature stays normal (between "0" and "8"). I've noticed it climb coming home in stop-n-go 101 traffic. Will try the tricks with HVAC control to know more accurately.
I think my temperature also drops back down some after driving back on surface streets after sitting on the 101.
It's odd that your temperature rises so quickly. How long is the wait at that light?
I drive about 5 miles to 101 every morning, then about 5 miles on 101. Temperature stays normal (between "0" and "8"). I've noticed it climb coming home in stop-n-go 101 traffic. Will try the tricks with HVAC control to know more accurately.
I think my temperature also drops back down some after driving back on surface streets after sitting on the 101.
I added a second bottle of Water Wetter and today drove 22 miles to work. It was 98 degrees outside and my dash gauge stayed in the middle of the 8 and 0. The climate control diagnostics never exceeded 96C, thats 204F. A/C on the whole time with center vent and recirculate, two fan speed up from the bottom. Much more encouraging. The ride home is the test, it'll be 108 this afternoon.
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I paid closer attention yesterday, but don't have much to report. The trick with the HVAC controls doesn't seem to work on my car (2002 MY).
Traffic was usual on the way home; temp climbed a little (not beyond the "0" in 180) and moved very slowly once traffic cleared.
I remember reading about air pockets in the coolant lines and them taking a long time to clear out. Sounds like a similar issue with a rapid climb in temp. That, or a bad temperature sensor.
Traffic was usual on the way home; temp climbed a little (not beyond the "0" in 180) and moved very slowly once traffic cleared.
I remember reading about air pockets in the coolant lines and them taking a long time to clear out. Sounds like a similar issue with a rapid climb in temp. That, or a bad temperature sensor.
My car never went past the zero in 180 as well and the climate control coolant temp never was never above 103C thats 217.4F. It was baking hot out, my dash gauge showed 109 as the outside temp. Adding a 2nd bottle of Water Wetter seems to have done something, the coolant temp is lower.
Last edited by white99c2; Jul 20, 2010 at 08:31 AM.
Does high humidity affect an engine like it does a human? AZ is a dry heat. East Texas right now is 100 degrees, and 99% humidity. My 996 stays between the "8" and "0" on 180.
I wonder if Hell is a dry heat, or humid....
I wonder if Hell is a dry heat, or humid....
I am glad to hear that it is cooling normally again, but I am skeptical that a bottle of water wetter in and of itself was responsible for the fix.
I am inclined to believe that some other issue remedied itself such as an air bubble in the line blocking flow, stuck thermostat etc. It is possible the water wetter was a catalyst in helping to resolve the issue, but I would keep an eye on things for a while just to be safe.
I am inclined to believe that some other issue remedied itself such as an air bubble in the line blocking flow, stuck thermostat etc. It is possible the water wetter was a catalyst in helping to resolve the issue, but I would keep an eye on things for a while just to be safe.
The only factors that affect your engine temperature are:
- the rate at which your engine generates heat (there are a number of reasons why an engine might generate more heat than it's able to dissipate - timing, etc, (but you would probably see many other symptoms)
- the rate at which that heat is transfered to coolant - governed by the coolant temperature and conductivity of the coolant
- the rate at which the coolant system can dissipate heat - there's a lot to this one, including
* the rate that coolant is moving through the system
* the surface area of the radiators
* the volume of air moving over the radiators
* the conductivity of the radiator fins (**dirt and leaves are insulators)
I took this last month (6/24) and it shows where mine is most of the time on my trips home (about 20miles one way) when it is 'warm' here in Phoenix. I have seen it climb to the right side of the 0 on surface streets.
I would love to add the third radiator and the L&N low temp thermostat so that the higher temps are held at bay a bit longer.
My seatbelt light is on because I took it off to take this picture also the airbag light is on because I replaced the driver side window regulator and tested it with the side airbag disconnected. Guess I need to go get that reset.
I would love to add the third radiator and the L&N low temp thermostat so that the higher temps are held at bay a bit longer.
My seatbelt light is on because I took it off to take this picture also the airbag light is on because I replaced the driver side window regulator and tested it with the side airbag disconnected. Guess I need to go get that reset.
Last edited by 911Dark; Jul 22, 2010 at 06:16 PM.
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