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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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997 or wait for 998?

I was seriously thinking about a 997....I like them more and more. Then the salesman told me the 998 will be here in a few years which will be a completely ne design, not a facelift with new engine options, (flat 8?) So what would you do? I think my trusty 996 will be with me for a few more years...
 
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My Porsche sources say the 997(2005-2007) update will only apply to the non-turbo models. The Turbos will remain on the 996 platform.

Then after a couple years they will come out on the 998 platform (2007-2008). The lights on the 998 will be almost identical to the Carrera GT lights, while the 997 will have retro look lights. Engine wise, the 997 will have a few more horses, but the 998 will have Cayenne derived v8 engines tunes to 400hp stock and 500hp in turbo form. The interior on the 997 is derived from the cayenne and will continue unchanged on the 998.

The double clutch gearbox will be available on the 997 and 998. 19 inch wheels will be available on 997 with 18 inch as standard. Also the 997/998 are going to have more standard features than present.

Prices are expected to be almost the same. However the 998 v8 will be significantly more. Also the "big heads†at Porsche have not yet decided whether to only have the flat 6 on the Boxster and have the Carrera only run the V8, or have the Carrera running the V8 and flat 6 stretched to clost to 4.0L.

Thats what I know for sure, more to come…

997 Update!

Seems like this is the suspected timing:

2004 late: C2 and C2S Coupe

2005: C2S Cab and C4S Coupe

2006: C4S Cab (400hp), GT3 and Turbo

2007: GT2

2008: 998
 
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what , 997 turbo?

 
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yellow, you're smokin' crack, bro.

Newport, get what you want now. Life's too short man. Enjoy it now.

If you really want a turbo, find a used 996 Turbo and have at it.

If you want the newest, freshest, first of the first, well, you might wait for the 997 Turbo.

Or wait just a week or two longer, and Porsche might even surprise you with something.
 
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One thing for sure, your salesman knows nothing that we didn't hear first.

I don't see Porsche developing a flat-8 when they've got a v-8 lying around in NA and Turbo forms. It just costs a little company like that too much.

Why not drop the 'old' GT3 motor into the 998, and get a 3.x liter flat 6, with 380-400 hp? It fits, preserves the weight distribution and heritage of the 911, and they can throw the V8 in a front-engined M5-killer.
 
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look at the time line, it speaks for itself.

read it, then speak. I did get those from a frined in Germany and that's the way it's going to be.


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yellow, you're smokin' crack, bro.

Newport, get what you want now. Life's too short man. Enjoy it now.

If you really want a turbo, find a used 996 Turbo and have at it.

If you want the newest, freshest, first of the first, well, you might wait for the 997 Turbo.

Or wait just a week or two longer, and Porsche might even surprise you with something.
 
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Sorry, no way in hell you can get a Cayenne derived V8 into a 911 body. Even if you could, you are looking at a 4000 lbs 911 with 80% of the weight in the rear.

You are smoking crack.
 
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Sorry, no way in hell you can get a Cayenne derived V8 into a 911 body. Even if you could, you are looking at a 4000 lbs 911 with 80% of the weight in the rear.
Yup, That's it...Actually they are thinking of 3 DIFFERENT 911's. A sedan derivative with the Cayenne V8 with and the engine in the front and the Carrera GT derived MID ENGINED flat 6 or flat 8 while still keeping the classic 911 shape and lastly the rear engined Carrera GT derivative. You see they want to keep the engine in the back. A V8 is too tall. No way it will fit back there. They are now at the limits of power output from the normally aspirated flat 6. So they may go in their bag of tricks, which in the past they made flat 4, 6, 8 and 12's. So if you need a bigger engine and it must be a flat engine to fit in the carrera shaped chassis, then the ONLY option is a flat 8. So it's all interesting, but I am gonna stay 996. It's the car I REALLY wanted and I would be buying just to have the latest and greatest. So maybe a Turbo, but whatever it is it will be a 996.
 
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I think you'll see the TT very soon.
 
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Well the C4 will be out this year....MAYBE 2006 for the TT, then the C4S.
 
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Sorry yellowbmr and newport, but what drugs are you guys on? yellowbmr, you say there won't be a 997 turbo in your first post, then you post a spy shot of one. Make up your mind! And your first post is mostly old info about cars that are already in production, but you talk about them like they're not. Where did you copy and paste that from?

newport, a front or mid-engined V8 911? A sedan derivative 911? Huh? Those wouldn't be 911's!
 
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Cool Re: 997 or wait for 998?

Originally posted by newport996
I was seriously thinking about a 997....I like them more and more. Then the salesman .....
That wasn't a salesman.
 
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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newport, a front or mid-engined V8 911? A sedan derivative 911? Huh? Those wouldn't be 911's!
Just relaying the info I got from what I saw as reputable....This source has been correct about everything regarding th e997 so far, and why tell me about the 998 when I am looking at the 997? He has no interest in telling me about a car coming in 3 years. Now I did ask him how long the model run of the 997 will be. he said it's an interim car that will only be here until the 998 which if you do your own research is in development right now. He then explained what I have heard from other sources. He just called the front engine V8 car a 911 derivative, and would be a model ALONGSIDE the 998. I also heard this from other sources....take it with a grain of salt....oh and I said a mid engined FLAT 8...based on a steel Carrera GT chassis...that's sounds VERY understandable. All the research and development into the CGT and they can use that for their next generation 911. They all laughed when they said a Flat 10? in a Porsche? No way, are you smoking? Yeah and look what is in the CGT....Why not a Flat 8? It's the same design, just 2 less cylinders and they can most definitely get lots more power and it will fit in a Carrera shaped car....
 
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Newport,

My experience has been that salesmen are the least informed of all people in the Porsche world, don't believe it unless you can see it and touch it. The 997/S has been in development for 5 years and will most likely stay in It's current form for some time.
If you like the car , go for it....

BMR,

Your posts are old news, we have heard it all before, and most of it is speculation. As usual you are a step behind everyone else.
 

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