Better clutch feel?
Better clutch feel?
Hi all,
A lot of times when I drive I feel the clutch is very 'pointy' meaning all of the clutch feel and grab happens in one point. I spoke to my mechanic at Porsche and he says my clutch is fine and it's the common feel for this model.
But driving with stop signs and red lights take offs feel not smooth at all and pretty annoying compared to driving my BMW 330i in those conditions. In the BMW you can actually feel the gradual engagement of the clutch and in the Porsche its all in one point in the pedal.
I read there is a GT2 clutch upgrade but it's almost $1000 only in parts, is there anything else that can be done? Will a Sachs clutch kit feel better (I read it's lighter than the oem)?
Thank you
A lot of times when I drive I feel the clutch is very 'pointy' meaning all of the clutch feel and grab happens in one point. I spoke to my mechanic at Porsche and he says my clutch is fine and it's the common feel for this model.
But driving with stop signs and red lights take offs feel not smooth at all and pretty annoying compared to driving my BMW 330i in those conditions. In the BMW you can actually feel the gradual engagement of the clutch and in the Porsche its all in one point in the pedal.
I read there is a GT2 clutch upgrade but it's almost $1000 only in parts, is there anything else that can be done? Will a Sachs clutch kit feel better (I read it's lighter than the oem)?
Thank you
Before I would change the clutch, check out the clutch helper spring. It is up near the dash. The spring in mine was broken, a common issue I think. The whole replacement part cost me $50 and made all the difference.
How did your clutch feel when it was broken?
It was extremely stiff and would engage close to floor. I thought I needed a new clutch and was just trying to hold on till it began slipping. After the helper spring replacement(I replaced the whole part for $50 from a Porsche Dealer, but understand that you can also just replace the sping for about $10), it was back to normal. Do a search on this forum under clutch helper spring and also check Renntech. There is several blogs, pictures and description. I figure it saved me about $2k.
Mine does the opposite, it engages closer to the released position of the clutch pedal.
Since it's a hydraulic clutch even if the clutch was brand new I suppose that it wouldn't make any difference.
I might have posted it in the wrong section of the forum, the 996tt/gt2 has a different clutch than the rest of the 996s right?
Since it's a hydraulic clutch even if the clutch was brand new I suppose that it wouldn't make any difference.
I might have posted it in the wrong section of the forum, the 996tt/gt2 has a different clutch than the rest of the 996s right?
I too compare this feel to that of my 2002 330Ci BMW which is much easier to modulate.
I don't own a 911 yet but I have been researching and test driving for the past 6 months thinking that this will be my next car. I love my BMW but the thinking is that the 911 is next best step in performance and styling.
I have driven 3 996 MKII's and the clutch is my main concern. It's the only thing keeping me from making the switch. I read that you can remove that spring altogether which would get all of the feel back but it makes the clutch pedal much stiffer requiring more pressure. But I have yet to personally drive a 911 with this spring removed.
I would be interested in hearing if the feel is improved by just replacing the spring.
I don't own a 911 yet but I have been researching and test driving for the past 6 months thinking that this will be my next car. I love my BMW but the thinking is that the 911 is next best step in performance and styling.
I have driven 3 996 MKII's and the clutch is my main concern. It's the only thing keeping me from making the switch. I read that you can remove that spring altogether which would get all of the feel back but it makes the clutch pedal much stiffer requiring more pressure. But I have yet to personally drive a 911 with this spring removed.
I would be interested in hearing if the feel is improved by just replacing the spring.
you have a twin turbo or na car? yes they are a different system, and if your looking for easy smooth engagement i wouldnt consider the gt2 conversion. If initial takeoff and clutch pedal level are your issues i would consider the clutch and flywheel. If your pedal engagement is high, clutch being worn out would cause that problem. If your clutch engagement is very abrupt and harsh from take off (which it sounds like your having) I would take a look at the dual mass flywheel. that is exactly what a dual mass flywheel is used for, allows for easier takeoff. and when it is the dual mass spring is worn out it causes the symptoms your having
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you have a twin turbo or na car? yes they are a different system, and if your looking for easy smooth engagement i wouldnt consider the gt2 conversion. If initial takeoff and clutch pedal level are your issues i would consider the clutch and flywheel. If your pedal engagement is high, clutch being worn out would cause that problem. If your clutch engagement is very abrupt and harsh from take off (which it sounds like your having) I would take a look at the dual mass flywheel. that is exactly what a dual mass flywheel is used for, allows for easier takeoff. and when it is the dual mass spring is worn out it causes the symptoms your having
The engagement is high and sudden, a little harsh i guess.
yes, it comes stock with a dual mass flywheel. you can find them on ebay im sure but I would not recomend buying a used one as you dont know wht condition it is in and if your going to be spending the money you want to get it right the first time. I wouldnt replace the flywheel without also doing a clutch and i would never do a clutch without also replacing the pressure plate. all three parts bolt together as a unit and doing them all at the same time is the only way to guarantee a good pedal feel and engagement. not to mention it will save you money in labor, it is not a cheap job. you should look around for a reputable porsche shop in the area for the best deal.
I understand, when I'll decide to I will replace all three parts at once. But should I get the original Porsche parts or should I get replacement (lighter as well) Sachs etc...
well the original equipment is a sachs part. if your interested in going lighter and more performance, which isnt necessary unless you have or plan on doing horsepower mods, there are lots of options out there. upgrading to a gt2 package is usually the first step, whixh will give you a single mass flywheel and a higher clamping force on the clutch and pressure plate. not to be confused with the gt2 slave conversion, completely different. clutch masters is a good source for upgraded clutch packages. if your using your car as a daily driver and dont plan on adding much HP, you should stick with stock. hope that answers some of your questions
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