My 2004 Porsche 911 carrera with Fabspeed Maxflo mufflers, 18 inch HRE racing alloy rims, Sachs racing clutch, and short shift kit vs a stock 2008 BMW m3 with the 6 speed manual transmission. What do you guys think? BTW 1st post!

 

unfortunatly that V8 will eat your Flat-6... Ask me how i know :P

 

How do you know? . I actually agree.

 

So unfortunately nothing short of a turbo or supercharger would help huh? damn.... thats kind of dissapointing

 

Luckily the 996 is available as a turbo!

 

Before proceeding further you may wish to check the history of this poster on Rennlist..

"Dr" Andrew: wasn't your experience on Rennlist enough?

 

I came from the BMW world. You have no choice. In the straight line it will eat you alive. It has about 100 more horses and it is in 996 turbo territory. Sorry.

 

Well played Sir!

 

Maybe if it was a one mile race or starting at highway speeds where the gearing and high revving flat 6 is stronger over a V8 engine.

 

Straight line your going to lose badly. In a road course it'll be a close fight. On a very tight autox you may have a fighting chance. 08 M3's are actually a good car and they have as many mods available to them as we do if not more.

 

One Mile, No & Highway Speeds, No. ask me how i know :P... and i dont know how a 8300 V8 is higher reving than the 7200 Flat-6...

 

Put the M3's V8 in your 996. haha

 

996 always wins over the M3 when you pull up to the club.
M3 does have more room... but they need it for those big girls.

 

I personally think that the stock 2004 996 is prettier than the M3 all around. I do agree that the M3 is a lot faster in the straights, but i am a little bit unsure about corners.

 

I would say they are fairly close in the corners. But if you want to drive a sedan on the track thats fine go with bimmer. The porsche is a porsche and the bmw is another 2 or 4 door sedan rolling down the road. To me a "sports" car has to be two door rear wheel drive and have no purpose other than to look good and create quick lap times. I cannot be practical, this would mean the engineers thought of use other than performance. To me there are very few cars that are true sports cars.

Although the 911 is not as raw as once was it still is a sports car in a sense. To me a sedan will never have a true sports car feel, due to its size and awkaward body lines, no matter how well it performs.

You just have to ask yourself what do you prefer.