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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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how come i find the 996 c2 slow???

I have the car for around 2 months now. It really doesn't feel so fast. The fastest car I been (by feel) in is a m coupe (with the e46 engine).

The 996 just feels a bit tame by comparison...
 
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Take it to the track and then report back. The 996 is a very fast car on the track. The limits of the 996, or any porsche for that matter, are far above the skill levels of 99% of the drivers.
 
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The 996 C2+C4 variants are very fast cars..but it is all relative.

I can say that the TT is a slow car compared to my bike.

Compare the 996's to 80-90% of other cars out there and you would have to say that they are quick.

I note that you say 'It feels tame by comparison' but 'feel' can be very deceiving.

If you wind up your windows etc the 996 is fairly quiet and smooth which can give the impression of not moving very fast.

It is interesting to note that I have taken many people who are non-motorcyclists on the back of my bike and we might be just cruisin' at say 60-80 Km/H and they are scared and assume we are doing some warp speed or something. This is because they are more exposed in a noisier environment etc and they FEEL like they are actually moving faster.

Next time strap yourself to the front of a 996 with your head down low near the front bumper and get your mate to take it for a spin and then let me know if you still think it is a slow car
 
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Thanks for the replies.

Yes I know its a fast car. I guess what hat I'm trying to ask is why doesn't it "feel" faster than it suppose to be?

Also, an interesting note is that it felt faster when I first got it. Maybe I'm just used to the speed now.



 
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It's also about torque. The C2 has a decent amount, but it doesn't feel as fast because it's not a torque monster.

It's much faster than an M Coupe. The M Coupe isn't even as close to as fast in a straight line, and at the track, they're not even in the same world.
 
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"Also, an interesting note is that it felt faster when I first got it. Maybe I'm just used to the speed now."

yes, the second best modification i made to my C2 (#1 being the supercharger) was buying a truck. after driving it for a couple days and then getting back into the C2, i can't help but feel like it is very fast with unbelievable braking and handling

btw, save for the V8s, BMWs (m coupe, e36 m, etc) are not torque monsters either.
 
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Originally posted by Scott in H-town
It's also about torque. The C2 has a decent amount, but it doesn't feel as fast because it's not a torque monster.

It's much faster than an M Coupe. The M Coupe isn't even as close to as fast in a straight line, and at the track, they're not even in the same world.

please tell me you have driven a m coupe on the track before saying that sorta crap. 315HP engine, 50/50 weight distribution, 3100 lbs for 1/2 price of c2 aint "even the same world" huh... geez if u r a true automotive enthusiast u would not bash a great affordable machine like that.
 

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Re: how come i find the 996 c2 slow???

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I have the car for around 2 months now. It really doesn't feel so fast. The fastest car I been (by feel) in is a m coupe (with the e46 engine).

The 996 just feels a bit tame by comparison...
Thats very funny.
 
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I think I can see where you're coming from dac11. I have progressively purchased faster cars over the last 5 years and each time I think two factors were involved in my interest for something faster - novelty of the car itself, and my increased driving abilities and experience. I suspect many people out here have chased speed or performance for some time (hence why half continue to splice and dice their current cars to make them go faster - e.g. exhausts, Stage upgrades etc. etc. - usually in an effort to up the bhp). I think I've reached the point where I can already imagine an even faster vehicle but have also recognized that it's all becoming a bit futile. The C2 I had was an unbelievable car and I miss it sometimes, even though I have a faster vehicle now. I guess it's all a matter of how you perceive fast, and how much faster you feel you want to go. Enjoy that C2 when you've got it!
 
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dac911,
ya u're exactly right. i found the same thing as u when i got my C4S last year. i'd say it's not a super fast car. however, u have to go here, http://homepage.mac.com/arlingwang/PhotoAlbum3.html to appreciate the car if u're not now. SPEED is not everything. well, when SPEED is something, i made the switch, but only after that experience
 
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Very interesting topic you started. You're not the only one feeling it slow.

I was just thinking that on my way home at 3 in the morning. I was pushing the C2 and it did'nt feel that fast. Yes, Fast is a relative term, but I know what (dac) is talking about. It just doesnt have the thrust like any other car that has 300+ HP, or $70K plus price tag for that matter.

I know you're getting half way flamed here, but that's because you're in a 996 forum. Some people may get offended if you say your (their) 996 is slow. After all, we all spent a pretty penny on these cars. I still do love my car, maybe because it's my first Porsche, but let me confirm it for you dac, I know what you're feeling, it ain't that fast.

Even at the track, if you watch Speed vision, they always seem to get passed by the competition. Also, I've taken several cars to the track, including an M Roadster with an E46 M54 Motor, and My own E46 coupe with also an M54, I pass 996s' all day long.

I'm very sorry if I am stepping on anyone's foot or hurting your Man-Gina, but I'm just keeping it real. dac, if you go to an E46 forum, they'll also say that their M's are faster than our C's. I can only tell you based on my knowledge and experience.

BTW, if you want a "fast car", see a Z06, RT/10, M5, AMG or even an RS6.
 

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"Also, I've taken several cars to the track, including an M Roadster with an E46 M54 Motor, and My own E46 coupe with also an M54, I pass 996s' all day long."

lol, that's all in the driver. for "some reason", i see more m car crashes at the track (and a buttload more on the street) than i do porsche ones. i think it's mainly because those driving the m cars are younger (er: not as mature) as a group than 996 owners, and think having a fast car makes them invincible. believe me, there is a reason insurance is the same for the 333 hp m3 as it is for 420 hp 996 TT which costs two+ times more. same driver ability, same day, same track, and the 996 eats the S54 m cars up (even when the S54s aren't grenading).

also, truth be known, the E36 M3 "feels" faster than the E46 M3. it's also more fun to drive and offers better feedback. btw, i have an SMG M3 too.
 
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Your car does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

The 996 C2 with the 3.6 liter does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 0 -100 in 11.5 seconds. What you don't feel is the weight transfer of a front engine car getting thrown towards you when you accelerate hard. I came from a 02 M3, which by comparison felt faster because it is a bigger, heavier, more raw machine, hence more weight gets thrown around under abrupt accelration/braking. The 911 being lighter, better built, better suspension and rear engine is more solid. When I first drove one, I thought that this car doesn't feel fast. When I was coming up on redline in third gear approaching 105 mph, my mind was changed. (That's what the dealer gets for giving someone the keys for test drive and says, "Have fun!")
 
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feeling fast does not always make u feel good. it's all about confidence i think. my brother traded his 97 Viper GTS not long ago. i missed that car. it's fast, "feel" really fast and really scary, without confidence
 


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