Why do people keep coming here looking to "prove" something by bringing up this argument. So few TT owners on this board are out tracking their Turbos. There are always faster cars, you buy what you buy because you like its looks, style, performance, whatever.

 

This sounds like the typical statement I hear from Ferrari owners...LOL!

Ultimately you are exactly right and the performance numbers we all read about in these tests are pushing the cars way past the point most of us will ever drive the cars.

However, these are the numbers we all use to "rank" new cars and see where they stack up against the rest of the field. 0-60, 1/4 mile, Comparative Road Course times, braking, lateral G's, etc.

To act like these numbers aren't significant for a new car trying to enter the market and compete against the likes of the 997TT and Z06 is simply absurd.

 

What makes you think that only a few of us tracking our cars?

 

Just a guess. And whatever its fine. Yeah the numbers impress me too, but why people come into a turbo forum and try and start arguments about the GT-R is beyond me. Go to the GT-R forum. Its a topic that has about 30 threads about it already. Why keep beating the dead horse. Sure, people can buy a turbo, throw about 10G's-20G's more in it and it will smoke a Lambo LP640...in the end, it just comes to preference and what you like...Sorry, just my opinion, seems like this topic is pretty played out already...
Lets wait for something fresh like when people actually start taking delivery and owning them.

 

Kevin makes a good point.

It's a fact that few people track their cars, of any kind. Something less than 5% I think. And the number of people that will track a 130k car is even less, but the number produced is smaller so each car going to the track has a bigger affect on the percentage. I think Porsches numbers are up on other small production cars because of their legacy, presence and heritage in racing, past and present. And the Porsche clubs all over the world have a huge affect on the Porsche numbers as well.

Every generation since the 993 the TT becomes more GT'ish, bigger, heavier, more power, less track specific and oriented than the previous model. It's a luxury car that happens to be fast on the track mostly due to lineage and reputation. I'm sure Porsche could have made it faster on the track easily, but then it would be too much competition for the GT3 and leave no room for the GT2. I'm fairly sure Porsche made it exactly how they wanted to.

 

And in four years time 998 Turbo will spank the GT-R... Zzzz... Well, I reckon the windows on Nissan have the latest updated patch instaled and that makes the car run just a tad better than the Porsche... :-).

 

Poor people like to "stick it to the rich guy" hence the trolls posting provocative stuff on this forum.

 

 

Because it's true!

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This is one of the truest statements I have ever seen in this entire forum and really goes a long way to explaining this whole odd debate.

People without enough money to get what they really want LOVE to point out that cheaper but comparable options are available. They say things like "I would never pay six figures for a car" when what they really mean is "I can't afford a six figure car and am bitter as hell about it." They point out cars like the GT-R thinking that we are going to break down and say "OH MY GOSH! I sure wish I hadn't spent that much money on my 997TT when I could have had a GT-R." The sad reality for them is that most of us - if we were so inclined - could just go out and buy a GT-R too and have both. Where is it written that you can only have one super car? People with few resources love to tout their practicality. But the fact of the matter is, if you have little to spend, you have no real choice.

I think the Car Magazine article is a perfect example of this. Even though the GT-R only beat the 997TT by amounts imperceptable to 95% of drivers, it ranked it last among the cars tested simply because it cost the most!

What a joke.

 

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I think this is the best response with regards to this whole "issue". I couldnt have put it better myself......I own an early gtr (32) and a 997tt, and plant to buy a 35gtr when they arrive down under....but the P car stays!!!!!

 

Lets face it you could spend xxxx$ on a civic and you could have it beat a Porsche turbo in a straight line and round a race track but at the end of the day it is still a civic(no offence to civic lovers because they are a fun car)
I would have a standard 08 911 turbo in the garage over any cheaper modded "faster" car.

 

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