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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dk996tt
the tips are definitely quicker off the line as you can leave on boost. however, they seem substantially slower from a roll, especially from 60 - 130. for some reason, i have always been able to get a quicker 60 - 130 time on my 997 with 1 shift instead of 2. i would run 5.21 seconds with 1 shift and 5.4 seconds with 2 shifts.
I agree %100...Tip accelerate QUICKER from standstill to 125mph and much SLOWER after 125mph.

Maybe coz the weight difference betrween tip and M6 car?

Also Todd K extended the rev limiter to 7200 on M6 and 68xx on tip cars...Wouldn't that make a difference?
 
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Originally Posted by OhioGT2
the S4 should be a solid runner.
This is one very interesting project. What power are you looking for to obtain?
 
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the tips are definitely quicker off the line as you can leave on boost. however, they seem substantially slower from a roll, especially from 60 - 130. for some reason, i have always been able to get a quicker 60 - 130 time on my 997 with 1 shift instead of 2. i would run 5.21 seconds with 1 shift and 5.4 seconds with 2 shifts.
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I agree %100...Tip accelerate QUICKER from standstill to 125mph and much SLOWER after 125mph.

Maybe coz the weight difference betrween tip and M6 car?

<!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- / message --><!-- controls --> Also Todd K extended the rev limiter to 7200 on M6 and 68xx on tip cars...Wouldn't that make a difference?
thats the mean reason i sold it last week
 
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thats the mean reason i sold it last week
With TCU u can move revs to 7000rpms ...
 
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dk996tt
michael, i just went for a ride in your 997 tip with tym yesterday. he wanted to see how effectively the monster intercoolers worked on back to back runs. your car is the fastest 997 tip i have been in so far. both runs were identical and recorded 0 - 60 time of 3.4 seconds, 60 - 130 times of 7.8 seconds, and 1/4 mile time of 11.4 @ 128 mph. congratulations, i thinks these are great numbers for a tiptronic.
Thanks for info David...How hot was it ??? How did u launch ???

This is very important...cause only with agressive launch from 2700-3000rpms at only +5C we could run 11.4+ here...

Techart 630HP runned 10.88 on 20s wheels in Hungary and 11.34 here and trapped 130...but u cant launch from 2700-3000 like stock car...cause its starts moving at 2000 rpms ...

I hope for better result soon ...More tuning to be done...

It would be nice to compare honest numbers from other Tips cars from AWE or Evoms...If stock Tips are faster then manual 0-150 (as per mags tests) then mod should be faster or run simular times as well IMHO...
 

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Very intresting numbers...8.4 for stcok Tips sounds unbeleivable..I mean my car was tested with Giac ECU and Tubi at 10.4 ((( may be we are not doing it something right with TIPS

I agree that Tips with same power should be as fast a manual at least to 60-130...hopefully it will be...



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there is probably much more tuning to be done before your kit is finalized. My Stage II AWE car turned a 7.7s 60-130mph run on the stock turbos. Haudimal's stock tip turned an 8.4s 60-130mph run, but his car seems much stronger than most.

 
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Thanks for info David...How hot was it ??? How did u launch ???

This is very important...cause only with agressive launch from 2700-3000rpms at only +5C we could run 11.4+ here...

Techart 630HP runned 10.88 on 20s wheels in Hungary and 11.34 here and trapped 130...but u cant launch from 2700-3000 like stock car...cause its starts moving at 2000 rpms ...

I hope for better result soon ...More tuning to be done...

It would be nice to compare honest numbers from other Tips cars from AWE or Evoms...If stock Tips are faster then manual 0-150 (as per mags tests) then mod should be faster or run simular times as well IMHO...
it was a hot day, probably above 90 degrees fahrenheit with alot of humity. the car feels very strong, especially for a tiptronic. i think 60 - 130 in 7.8 is a solid number. 8.4 s in a stock tip sounds amazing. but i guess tiptronics can differ quite a bit from one to another. anyways, it is absolutely night and day difference from when i went for a ride when it first arrived with the tubi and giac flash. i think you will be happy when you drive it!
 
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hmmm cool.
 
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0-160 TIPS is 1.8sec faster the manual...so definately Tips should be as fast if not faster then manual 60-130...so we should have better times...

I know what problem we are facing but I am not going to tell u guys now, cause it took us quite a lot of time to find this out...no probs with tuning...the car is just making too much POWER

As for other tuners... Please show US you DYNO numbers and your times with your TIPs !!!

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What i noticed is from 0-193mph both manual and tip r almost same BUT

from 0-125 the tip would beat by 1-2sec not sure

from 125-193 the manual would beat the tip by also 1-2sec

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RUS, at 7.8s you are comparable to a 600hp 997tt. Can you post your driftbox runs and dyno? The 996tt board here as a full list of 60-130mph times of various cars here. 700hp should put you into the 6s range
 
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Originally Posted by Speedshaq
This is one very interesting project. What power are you looking for to obtain?
Enough to hang with GT700 996's on the highway
 
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that's really fast. 1-2 sec to 140... gosh, I would have a heart attack in the car.
 
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Originally Posted by OhioGT2
Enough to hang with GT700 996's on the highway
Thats fast. You should open a thread on the Audi section of the forum with this project
 
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Originally Posted by Speedshaq
Thats fast. You should open a thread on the Audi section of the forum with this project
I will once we have the tuning finished and a video or two to post. We're working on the interior right now which should be completed in 2-3 weeks. This should be the nicest (and fastest) street driven S4 running around.
 


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