Tuner reliability for a daily driver
#31
08-09-2008, 08:55 PM
Clutches, brakes, tires, etc.(esp with track use).
Just because a car has 700 Hp does not mean it has to be used to the fullest on every drive . It's there for those moments when its most desireable . In fact I can think of one time where the extra power directly helped avoid a collision --that in itself washes away what might have been a huge expense with a less powerful car.
My car is only one example. My driving style and needs invole one person . Customizing a car for me meant tailoring it to my needs .
I draw no conclusions based on one example .
#32
08-22-2008, 10:51 AM
I still agree with Serpentine to a large extent. Every car I did mods on I wished I had not. I wish I had all the money I just threw away. From Callaway moded camaros to vettes to vipers. Admittedly these cars were not porsches. But once I pay 150+Large in cash, I am less apt to screw around. On the other hand IF you have thousands and thousands to throw away plus (usually) your warranty---well, I love to read about it. When I checked with sharkwerks about going above the ecu and muffler change, the price SKY ROCKETED and the assurances of reliabiltiy etc became noticably a BIT less certain. I am sure there are plenty of people on this forum who share Serpentene"s (and my) experiences. It does get embarassing to admit. On the callaway camaro their holler 400 just kind of melted into destruction. They had a ironclad warranty on the engine because it was supposed to be bullet proof and after pulling a lot of teeth they finally did replace the engine.(Of course I had to pay for removal and install)
I also have been following Yarralis1 experiences with great interest because he seems to be able to get the mods done and they work well. He is my mod "hero" (not being sarcastic)
I also have been following Yarralis1 experiences with great interest because he seems to be able to get the mods done and they work well. He is my mod "hero" (not being sarcastic)
What color was it and what year? I watch every time one of these goes up for sale, so I might even have pictures of your old car.
Any info would be cool to hear. I've been a fan of these cars for some time, and am looking towards purchasing one as soon as I can find a nice one for sale.
Send me an email at speedbbb at aol.com since it looks like PMs aren't an option.
#33
08-23-2008, 10:03 AM
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Is it just me or do you "modded" guys seem to be taking this a little bit too personally?
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
#34
08-23-2008, 10:13 AM
Is it just me or do you "modded" guys seem to be taking this a little bit too personally?
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
"If you choose after market wheels --Those that applied for tire/wheel replacement no longer qualify. And the ET fitment is never precise. Your alignment will suffer. Your handling will suffer. You believe in your mind it's better because you paid a heavy premium and it's pretty...because it's unique. You picked it. Self-Mind games."
Last edited by bbywu; 08-23-2008 at 10:24 AM.
#35
08-23-2008, 11:05 AM
Is it just me or do you "modded" guys seem to be taking this a little bit too personally?
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
What's wrong with just saying what you did and that for you it was a great experience?
When "The lady doth protest too much, methinks..." people will possibly assume you have a vested interest.
Seems like this board has become totally "infested" with salesman pushing their wares...sometimes it's hard to tell who is who...
I personally know people who have sworn by their mods and others who have had awful experiences...
I'm considering some mods myself now...and appreciate hearing about all experiences.
#36
08-24-2008, 04:49 AM
When reffering to exhaust.. do you mean the mufflers or included with headers ? Will you have HP gains if you just place the mufflers alone ?
#37
08-24-2008, 06:47 AM
Well, I modified my GT3RS:
-Cage
-Lightweight seats
-6 pt harnesses
-Fire extinguisher
-Flash
-Lightweight wheels and race tires
-New exhaust
Since I intend to do a great deal of track days, would you argue that these are stupid modifications? They will reduce the 'resale' value of my car - but why the f*ck do I own a car like this without using it? Life is too short.
My experience with turbo mods are extensive and I have never had a bad experience.
And a note for eclou - I don't think it is appropriate to post political opinions on this board. Oh yes, I have great freedom now under Bush - "50% tax bracket, my phones can be tapped at will by the Feds, my medical practice is untenable because of Federal regulations, and am treating thousands of returning brave soldiers who have traumatic brain injury for a war, what was that rationale again? oh yeah, to capture Saddam Hussein."
-Gerry
07 GT3 RS Clubsport
Sold:
'04 GT3
'05 GT3
'08 TT - modded to ~700 bhp
'07 TT
'02 TT X50
IMSA GTS-1 Turbo
2 993 Cup cars
'93 RSA
'92 911 Turb0 S2 (1 of 25)
'80 SC
-Cage
-Lightweight seats
-6 pt harnesses
-Fire extinguisher
-Flash
-Lightweight wheels and race tires
-New exhaust
Since I intend to do a great deal of track days, would you argue that these are stupid modifications? They will reduce the 'resale' value of my car - but why the f*ck do I own a car like this without using it? Life is too short.
My experience with turbo mods are extensive and I have never had a bad experience.
And a note for eclou - I don't think it is appropriate to post political opinions on this board. Oh yes, I have great freedom now under Bush - "50% tax bracket, my phones can be tapped at will by the Feds, my medical practice is untenable because of Federal regulations, and am treating thousands of returning brave soldiers who have traumatic brain injury for a war, what was that rationale again? oh yeah, to capture Saddam Hussein."
-Gerry
07 GT3 RS Clubsport
Sold:
'04 GT3
'05 GT3
'08 TT - modded to ~700 bhp
'07 TT
'02 TT X50
IMSA GTS-1 Turbo
2 993 Cup cars
'93 RSA
'92 911 Turb0 S2 (1 of 25)
'80 SC
#38
08-24-2008, 08:26 AM
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Like I said earlier...really want to say something...but I hold my tongue 
let's just remember the oval office will have new occupant soon
let's just remember the oval office will have new occupant soon
#39
08-24-2008, 08:30 AM
And a note for eclou - I don't think it is appropriate to post political opinions on this board. Oh yes, I have great freedom now under Bush - "50% tax bracket, my phones can be tapped at will by the Feds, my medical practice is untenable because of Federal regulations, and am treating thousands of returning brave soldiers who have traumatic brain injury for a war, what was that rationale again? oh yeah, to capture Saddam Hussein."
On another note...did you notice a difference with your re-flash? Never driven a non turbo 911 with a ECU mod.
#41
01-14-2010, 09:26 PM
And a note for eclou - I don't think it is appropriate to post political opinions on this board. Oh yes, I have great freedom now under Bush - "50% tax bracket, my phones can be tapped at will by the Feds, my medical practice is untenable because of Federal regulations, and am treating thousands of returning brave soldiers who have traumatic brain injury for a war, what was that rationale again? oh yeah, to capture Saddam Hussein."
-Gerry
-Gerry
Gerry I missed this somehow for the past 5 months. Medicine is about to be "reformed" for good. Have your "Hopes" been fulfilled? Don't think I'm going to let you slide on this.
#42
01-14-2010, 09:40 PM
My last car was an Audi. Tuned it to the max. Suspension mods over time became a serious headache. Drive shaft was replaced twice ,,had coilover suspension rattled like an old domestic... tires had uneven wear even after wheels aligned several times. High flow catalyst constantly throwing CELs;gasket leaks...turbo DV replaced every week; too many other headaches to bore you with..
was fun while it lasted but once a part is changed it doesn't end. Something else always needs added to balance the last mod...and in the end if you eventually want to sell the car or trade-in it hurts the resale value significantly. Nobody wants your Frankenstein and many wouldn't know how to drive it respectfully any way-- with the exception of the fellow enthusiast like yourself..
So it's a huge monetary loss if you decide to sell.
Just so I'm honest with you I spent $95,000 on top of the $45,000 I paid for the car new before modding. $140K give or take...now I could have taken that cash and coupled with the other $140K I spent on the Turbo and well you get the drift...
I think if you have a serious amount of cash to devote to not only parts replacement but the extra care needed in consistently maintaining (much much more maintenance than stock parts) the vehicle and finding a reputable tuner/mechanic (every one is a wannabe wrench good luck) and prepared to consistently run into quirks...mechanical/electrical/ CEL light DTC, and you have a DD vehicle (don't even try using your modified car as a daily driver) and don't expect the longevity of parts, consider all mods at half-life first day of install vs. stockers; then sure it's a lot of fun and for a short while very addicting and creative and EXPENSIVE.
So I understand the bug all too well.
But...if you think about all the $$cash$$ spent over time -- that same cash can be collecting interest until such time your brand new warranteed fully supported GT2 order has arrived for pick up.
Something to think about... I hope I don't offend any one here. Very interested in modified cars; albeit now from a far, but I know through experience what sounds awesome in theory isn't always unfortunately the real life experience. Not long term any way. Be educated. Be prepared. Most of all be happy with your decisions and enjoy.
Good Luck...
was fun while it lasted but once a part is changed it doesn't end. Something else always needs added to balance the last mod...and in the end if you eventually want to sell the car or trade-in it hurts the resale value significantly. Nobody wants your Frankenstein and many wouldn't know how to drive it respectfully any way-- with the exception of the fellow enthusiast like yourself..
So it's a huge monetary loss if you decide to sell.
Just so I'm honest with you I spent $95,000 on top of the $45,000 I paid for the car new before modding. $140K give or take...now I could have taken that cash and coupled with the other $140K I spent on the Turbo and well you get the drift...
I think if you have a serious amount of cash to devote to not only parts replacement but the extra care needed in consistently maintaining (much much more maintenance than stock parts) the vehicle and finding a reputable tuner/mechanic (every one is a wannabe wrench good luck) and prepared to consistently run into quirks...mechanical/electrical/ CEL light DTC, and you have a DD vehicle (don't even try using your modified car as a daily driver) and don't expect the longevity of parts, consider all mods at half-life first day of install vs. stockers; then sure it's a lot of fun and for a short while very addicting and creative and EXPENSIVE.
So I understand the bug all too well.
But...if you think about all the $$cash$$ spent over time -- that same cash can be collecting interest until such time your brand new warranteed fully supported GT2 order has arrived for pick up.
Something to think about... I hope I don't offend any one here. Very interested in modified cars; albeit now from a far, but I know through experience what sounds awesome in theory isn't always unfortunately the real life experience. Not long term any way. Be educated. Be prepared. Most of all be happy with your decisions and enjoy.
Good Luck...
#43
01-14-2010, 09:43 PM
Damn, Larry, I need to make a trip to Miami in the spring and drive that turbo of yours to see what driving a MONSTER is like!!! Gotta see what all the hype is about!!! ha!!!
#44
01-15-2010, 03:05 AM
17,000 on the clock
@50 miles - HRE P40 wheels
@2500 miles - Cargraphic Stage II powerkit (exhaust + air-filter + ECU remap)
@7500 miles - Bilstein/GMG suspension
Issues: none, not even a rattle.
Powerkit quality way better than stock (especially the amazing smooth remap), suspension ideal for street use and again an upgrade on stock quality. Simply perfect (even better to drive than a PDK 997.2 Turbo)
@50 miles - HRE P40 wheels
@2500 miles - Cargraphic Stage II powerkit (exhaust + air-filter + ECU remap)
@7500 miles - Bilstein/GMG suspension
Issues: none, not even a rattle.
Powerkit quality way better than stock (especially the amazing smooth remap), suspension ideal for street use and again an upgrade on stock quality. Simply perfect (even better to drive than a PDK 997.2 Turbo)
Last edited by Alex_997TT; 01-15-2010 at 03:40 AM.
#45
01-15-2010, 10:02 AM
My DD and 18k miles and car is perfect. For about $10k for p40's, softronic and exhaust you can transform the car. Almost the price of some carbon bits . Given what we pay for these cars, why not spend a little more and make it so much better. I can flash back to stock and put my original wheels back on if I decide to sell. Damptronics next month. BTW, my wheel/tire porsche warranty covers aftermkt wheels and there are no fitment issue on p40's.
. Given what we pay for these cars, why not spend a little more and make it so much better. I can flash back to stock and put my original wheels back on if I decide to sell. Damptronics next month. BTW, my wheel/tire porsche warranty covers aftermkt wheels and there are no fitment issue on p40's.
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