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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
KWV3s are very good. But like all aftermarket coilovers (except Bilstein Damptronics) you need someone with PIWIS to shut off PASM.
I ordered Motons, what will happen if I don't know anyone who has a PIWIS? I live in a country with as little as 2 Porsche 911s. So there aren't any dealers around.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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You will get warnings that won't go away.
 
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I ordered Motons, what will happen if I don't know anyone who has a PIWIS? I live in a country with as little as 2 Porsche 911s. So there aren't any dealers around.
Send in your ECU to someone who can turn off PASM.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPINE_997
You will get warnings that won't go away.
will it beep all the time?
 
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It's a tough call. Both are great. From my experience, PSS10's are a little bit more conservative and won't go as low, KW V3 is a great all-around coil and we sell more of KW than all other coil brands combined.
 
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Anyone knows the trick to eliminate PASM? I think AWE has a special procedure.
 
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Originally Posted by luiscarlos
Anyone knows the trick to eliminate PASM? I think AWE has a special procedure.
Here you go...KW's insrtuctions as follows:

http://www.kw-gmbh.de/kw_upload/Einb...ieren%20KW.pdf

and AWE's English version:

http://awe-tuning.com/media/pdf/AWE_...ASM_Delete.pdf
 

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Cool Thanks!
 
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If you elect to disable PASM, and really hate having the PASM button that is non functional, you can also swap the control panel for something like this (note PASM button is missing - this photo is form a 05 Carrera without PASM.)
 
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That is anice idea in case I am really happy with the KW,s
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Originally Posted by luiscarlos
I have KW HLS and Bilstein/TA coilovers and noticed that KW coils are thiner than TA so I think KW is softer and that is good for the street specially when the roads are bad but I think that for the track TA coilovers work better,I have to test the new KW susp in the truck before changing spring rate.
Keep in mind that KW springs either are made for the stock suspension or KW coilovers. The combination with the Tech Art / Bilstein might not be optimized due to different valving specifications.
 
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TA/Bilstein shocks are softer than KW shocks
TA/Bilstein springs are harder than KW springs

So one has softer shock but harder spring so I will have to play with the setting,now i am having a little bit of trouble doing 2.5 mm holes in the rear boom box to install 2mm allen tip to adjust the rear shocks,I need to be able to adjust for different situations.
 
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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No actual experience, just from reading and "web research."

My understanding is KW uses very stiff spring (973 lbs/in rear, compared this with for example Bilstein's 570) and compensates by low compression damping. This seems to be the opposite of what you're writing??

Please do correct me if I am wrong.

Originally Posted by luiscarlos
TA/Bilstein shocks are softer than KW shocks
TA/Bilstein springs are harder than KW springs
 

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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I am no expert, but I was told that it is ideal to have softer spring rates and compensate with the adjustability of compression damping.

Maybe some of you suspension experts can chime in here?
 
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Yes sounds logic both.

To be honnest I have no idea about the KW and I will have to test and check how it feels in the track/street in both settings.
 


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