Porsche unveils facelifted 2010 Turbo!
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08-07-2009, 03:25 AM
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Porsche unveils facelifted 2010 Turbo!
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/07/p...00-horsepower/
As we've discussed, the current Porsche Turbo is much too slow. Rather than let the aftermarket have all the glory, Porsche has decided to up the Turbo's performance for 2010. But not just in terms of power. Egged on no doubt by the pesky Nissan GT-R, Porsche is performing a complete character change for their newest Turbo, including less weight, RWD bias and a more sporting character.
The big news is of course the engine. Goodbye 3.6-liter six, it's been fun. Hello 3.8-liter directed injected flat-six from the Carrera S. Coupled to two variable-vane turbos, power is now 500 hp. And because it's direct injected, mileage increases from 22.1 mpg to 24.1 mpg with the manual. Should you opt for Porsche's 7-speed Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (dual-clutch) gearbox, mileage improves from the old Tiptronic's 20.8 mpg to a very impressive 24.8 mpg. Also gone (kinda) are the silly dual-action faux-paddle shifters. Replacing them are F1 style right-is-up, left-is-down wheel-mounted paddles -- a welcome improvement, though we'd still prefer column-mounted shifters like on Ferraris and Godzilla. And you can still opt for the inferior dual-action buttons if you like.
The fun continues with a reprogrammed Porsche Traction Management system that distributes torque between the front and rear differentials via an electric multi-plate clutch. Still not convinced? The PSM (Porsche Stability Management) has been re-calibrated to provide more thrills. New RS Spyder rims are also available to decrease unsprung weight. In a word, yes please.
Pricing is listed for the coupe and cabriolet at $132,800 and $143,800 respectively, with an on-sale date of November 2009 in Germany and January 2010 here in the United States. We'll get a first glimpse of the new Turbo this September at the Frankfurt Auto Show. Until then, read the full press release after the jump.
As we've discussed, the current Porsche Turbo is much too slow. Rather than let the aftermarket have all the glory, Porsche has decided to up the Turbo's performance for 2010. But not just in terms of power. Egged on no doubt by the pesky Nissan GT-R, Porsche is performing a complete character change for their newest Turbo, including less weight, RWD bias and a more sporting character.
The big news is of course the engine. Goodbye 3.6-liter six, it's been fun. Hello 3.8-liter directed injected flat-six from the Carrera S. Coupled to two variable-vane turbos, power is now 500 hp. And because it's direct injected, mileage increases from 22.1 mpg to 24.1 mpg with the manual. Should you opt for Porsche's 7-speed Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (dual-clutch) gearbox, mileage improves from the old Tiptronic's 20.8 mpg to a very impressive 24.8 mpg. Also gone (kinda) are the silly dual-action faux-paddle shifters. Replacing them are F1 style right-is-up, left-is-down wheel-mounted paddles -- a welcome improvement, though we'd still prefer column-mounted shifters like on Ferraris and Godzilla. And you can still opt for the inferior dual-action buttons if you like.
The fun continues with a reprogrammed Porsche Traction Management system that distributes torque between the front and rear differentials via an electric multi-plate clutch. Still not convinced? The PSM (Porsche Stability Management) has been re-calibrated to provide more thrills. New RS Spyder rims are also available to decrease unsprung weight. In a word, yes please.
Pricing is listed for the coupe and cabriolet at $132,800 and $143,800 respectively, with an on-sale date of November 2009 in Germany and January 2010 here in the United States. We'll get a first glimpse of the new Turbo this September at the Frankfurt Auto Show. Until then, read the full press release after the jump.
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08-07-2009, 05:22 AM
Here is a link to the US microsite: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911turbo/usa.aspx
It doesn't look much different from the current version, the paddles are a nice feature as are the optional and expensive RS Spyder wheels, but I am not happy about the A91 engine block. And the bhp is only increased from 480 to 493 (ROW hp) and a 2 mph increase in top speed? Not a great leap forward in terms of power. It does have Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) that may help with directionality.
Still, I like my old Ruf Turbo with much more power...
It doesn't look much different from the current version, the paddles are a nice feature as are the optional and expensive RS Spyder wheels, but I am not happy about the A91 engine block. And the bhp is only increased from 480 to 493 (ROW hp) and a 2 mph increase in top speed? Not a great leap forward in terms of power. It does have Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) that may help with directionality.
Still, I like my old Ruf Turbo with much more power...
#6
08-07-2009, 06:16 AM
Probably faster from 0-60 or 80 miles. But after that the gt2 will definately still be faster. You have to remember not only does the gt2 have 30 more hp but it is around 200 pounds lighter meaning power to weight ratio is much higher. would be suprised to see the turbo being faster than a gt2.
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08-07-2009, 08:01 AM
Probably faster from 0-60 or 80 miles. But after that the gt2 will definately still be faster. You have to remember not only does the gt2 have 30 more hp but it is around 200 pounds lighter meaning power to weight ratio is much higher. would be suprised to see the turbo being faster than a gt2.
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08-07-2009, 08:15 AM
This is old information
Those who bought 09's knew what they were doing
While I doubt we will see any appreciation from the GT1 block, we will have the benefit of the last of the hand built Turbo's. Real Pcar fans will always remember the history. As VW is now in control, we will see more cost cutting, less Porsche going forward. Its a new chapter for a great company, lets hope the legacy isn't completely destroyed for the dollar.
Those who bought 09's knew what they were doing
While I doubt we will see any appreciation from the GT1 block, we will have the benefit of the last of the hand built Turbo's. Real Pcar fans will always remember the history. As VW is now in control, we will see more cost cutting, less Porsche going forward. Its a new chapter for a great company, lets hope the legacy isn't completely destroyed for the dollar.
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08-07-2009, 08:42 AM
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Those who bought 09's knew what they were doing
While I doubt we will see any appreciation from the GT1 block, we will have the benefit of the last of the hand built Turbo's. Real Pcar fans will always remember the history. As VW is now in control, we will see more cost cutting, less Porsche going forward. Its a new chapter for a great company, lets hope the legacy isn't completely destroyed for the dollar.
Those who bought 09's knew what they were doing
While I doubt we will see any appreciation from the GT1 block, we will have the benefit of the last of the hand built Turbo's. Real Pcar fans will always remember the history. As VW is now in control, we will see more cost cutting, less Porsche going forward. Its a new chapter for a great company, lets hope the legacy isn't completely destroyed for the dollar.
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08-07-2009, 08:55 AM
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Really? There are many first hand reports of people going to the factory tour and seeing with their own eyes that all engines are hand built by one worker. Do you know different or just conjecturing?
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...tory-tour.html
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...tory-tour.html
