Before modifying my 997.1 Turbo I really hated the idea of invalidating my car's factory warranty by modifying. However, after my mods I have realized just how inflexible the stock Turbo is (eg. can't change ride heights to counter natural sagging, can't order sports suspension or exhaust options from factory, etc etc) that now I don't think I could live with another 'stock' sports car again.

The handling (even on public roads) is night and day between a stock car that's had it's suspension sagging for 10k miles (thus changing rake and thereby weight distribution and aerodynamics as it does so) with geometry set by the factory or OPC (with their large +/- ranges for each wheel), and a car that's had upgraded suspension parts to allow for precise changes in castor/camber/toe/ride-height/rake/etc.

The thought of replacing my modified 997.1 Turbo with a stock 997.2 Turbo makes me frankly nauseous at what I would be giving up - knowing what I know now. I would be losing my mind thinking that each mile I drive the suspension is sagging more and more and there was nothing I could do about it. Perhaps going the GT3 route where everything is adjustable would be the only direction for me now; but I am not a track junkie and I love having Turbo power and 4wd.

So even when the 991 Turbo comes out, unless it has fully adjustable suspension (very unlikely) and wheel/sports-suspension/exhaust options from the factory, as much as I crave latest tech I just don't think I will be able to bring myself to buy one.

I suppose I could try modifying again with a 991 Turbo but as much fun as I had with my 997.1 Turbo I don't think I would want to spend that kind of time and money again fixing things that I believe should be delivered from the factory. Plus with after-market powerkits with the new engine/PDK are going to either be very risky or cost a fortune to strengthen components to reduce that risk. So I am not sure I will have the same confidence to go down that route. Maybe a 991 Turbo with just upgraded suspension would be the best solution...

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you could just buy a GT2

I was highly dissapointed in my Porsche Turbo and probably should have bought a GT3 or wait for a GT2 - but I thought both would not be wise first Porsche car purchases due to my novice driving abilities.

Now with some tweaking its night and day vs. stock. Obviously the Turbo is not what Porsche intended to be a track stormer, for its target audience (daily driver, all weather) it fits the bill.

 

Of all the Porsches the Turbo is the one least likely to remain stock. There's just too much to be gained from the car with modifications . I try to ponder the reasons . Part of me feels that the goal of the Turbo was to create somewhat of a luxury power car instead of a one mile event contender or king of the rolling start .

It seems like most of the track drivers seem to prefer the rear wheel normally aspirated cars and with Gt3. Gt3 RS . 997S , 997 cars there are several models to choose . Many will argue that on a tight knit twisty road or track the Turbo simply can not compete with the lighter cars which have less power but are more controllable on that type of road.

I believe that by modifying the Turbo one makes what i call the childhood dream car -- faster than most, confortable for daily use, and can handle its own even on the track .

I didn't want to trade my car for a new Turbo either . In fact I may keep my car even after the 991 Turbo (f one is even made) comes out . I prefer the idea of buying the normally aspirated cars while keeping and preserving my Turbo . Right now I'm in the PDK 997S and maybe next time it will be the Gt3 while my Evt700 simply goes through this timeless memory preserved where I hope to keep this car 10+ years .

I love my Turbo that much that i don't think any car i could make (even if it was faster , newer, prettier, more gadgets) would ever capture my heart like this one . So much time, effort and care went into creating it . I am in it for the long haul.

 

Agree Alex, and added to that, why take a GBP50k hit after 3 years just because, "Well sir, it does have higher than average mileage"!

 

Amen Larry, , you speak the truth, I feel the same way, however, I am at the beginning stages of my turbo, still a virgin in the modding dept, and I am on the fence as to what to get first as I have cpo until end of 2012 (which I dont want to void). With that being said, I think a tune and exhaust may be first, and then eventually suspension stuff. Cosmetics are minor and dont affect warranty so those will be done throughout this year.

I too am in love with my turbo and hope to keep it for the long haul

 

A modded turbo is a great car. I could see adding a 998/991 to the stable someday, but I would never replace my dry sump turbo with it. No way.

 

Ain't that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Without the mods, I too, like gmoney, was disappointed. Now I can say, dream come true.

 

I 2nd that! I love my 997TT with all the mods I've done. I simply cannot imagine this car being left alone as stock with all its shortcomings. After one spends the time changing certain components(suspension, exhaust, flash, etc.), the car is totally transformed to what it should have been. I'm sure the 998TT will also go through the same route but to what degree, I'm not certain. As stock, the car will already have its inherent restrictions. I plan on keeping mine for a long time to come. Long live 997TT.

 

GT2 has the power but not the 4wd security of driving on wet/cold/icy/snowy/uneven UK public roads. I don't think I'd ever buy a non-4wd car again (leaving Lambos, Audis and Porsches really) unless it was a purely track day car.

 

Now I am on the precipice of becoming a father, I think supercars will be taking a back-seat for a while. So keeping my Turbo long term and then probably renewing my Audi each time a new RS6 Avant comes out, seems like the best option for me.

Buying new gas-guggling (read: most sports) cars here in the UK though is about to become very expensive. The road taxes for such cars are about to go over £1000 per year! Anything over 255g/km CO2 is going to get taxed to death so much so that I think people are going to stop buying them all together.

 

Dealers will ALWAYS find something (mileage, options, colour, etc) to make the depreciation selling back to them much worse.

 

Welcome to the club

 

Yes, the M64 is a monster and will be a longgggg time before anything comes close to challenging it IMHO.

 

Yup, only 2 things away from perfection now - strip off 200kg and slightly remodel the cars backside (including rear spoiler). Other than that, a dream come true!

 

sounds like you should be driving a 997.2TT w/ Motons.