Isn't the powertrain warranty 6yrs / 60k miles?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Dqe...layer_embedded

 

I'm not sure about the powertrain... Because I purchased the 6yr/72,000 mile warranty (bumper to bumper). I'm not really concerned with a number of miles that I'll never drive in that given time period.

I also believe the warranty is inline with other Nissans.

 

Nice video.. Makes me feel better.. .5 slower isnt too much..

Mike

 

New car basic warranty on the GT-R is 3yr/36k miles.

Powertrain warranty is 6yr/60k miles.

 

Überwältigendes rennen video.........I mean, awesome racing video




-Nur Spruch (just sayin)

 

Jasper why the worry about a Tracked GTR???

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/2727290-post5.html

Ultra Reliable, Warranty as strong as steel.. Im curious??

We buy Cup Cars that are beaten and GT3's with 10k all track miles.. whats the worry with Stillen's GTR??

 

^ lol! I went to reply on that thread...

Seems like nobody likes the Porsche vs GT-R debate.

I only made that comment because of the asking price and the way it was most likely driven.

I don't think it's any surprise... Which would you pay more for - a cared for stock car, or a highly modded beaten track car?

Sure it depends on the mods. Warranty is out the window (on pretty much everything that matters - but prices on replacement components are coming wayyyyyyy down). But I'd rather pay $65k for a slightly used GT-R, instead of $80k+ for a tracked one.

 

again matter of opinion.. If i was tracking my GTR id rather spend 15k more for 1 with 100k invested so i dont have dump all my $$$ into in parts i was going to by anyway.. Like Wheels, Tires, Cage, Seats, Safety gear etc..

Mike

 

There have been two overall points made in Nissans ad campaign :
1) The claim that it can beat the Porsche at the ring .
2) The price .

Number 1 has already been discussed ad nauseum on this thread . The only point to even mention it again is that it truly was a central focus of Nissans advertising for the car . Had it been presented as a street car or some other type of vehicle then those topics may have been discussed.

Number 2 --has not been discussed much. Earlier in the thread I felt that the price value would give Nissan the pricing win . I am not so sure now.

If one examines the resale value of an equally priced Porsche in 4 years all he has to look at is the 2006 997S which is still retailing for nearly 55K on a 90K car. The GTR 4 year price is unknown. I believe that once the car loses its warranty with time or even faces a voided warranty , it may drop the value . I also believe that a 4 year old GTR is too hard to price .. so in that regard there is more speculation with an unknown car Vs a benchmark car . The 997S (which is the equally priced Porsche) has tremendous resilience in retaining value.

So bang for the buck value ? With the Gtr?
I simply don't know.
My speculative vote goes to the Porsche.

I also look forwatd to seeing how well a 4 year old Nissan runs the track with a 4 year old Turbo.
At this time .. all one can do is guess.. but given the early problems and even the current European recalls , as well as the strict reigns of the manufacturer .. there are just too many issues to validate the 85K risk in my opinion.

In short -- the Gtr is by no means inexpensive . In fact --long term it may even be more expensive than I first thought.

 

One thing to consider, since when did the Nurburgring become the end all when deciding which car deserves the nod in regards to performance? What's not to say a certain car wouldn't perform better a Luguana Seca, Fuji Speedway or Buttonwillow etc. I know it's a legendary track, and is hallowed ground according to most Europeans.......but just look at some of the times and the variation in time with the same vehicles posting some pretty significantly different times: GTR for instance posted a 7:26, 7:29, 7:38, 7:54, and 7:55

<TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 90%" id=sortable_table_id_0 class="wikitable sortable"><TBODY><TR><TD>6:48</TD><TD>Radical SR8LM</TD><TD>Michael Vergers</TD><TD>19 August 2009</TD><TD>Radical Sportscars<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-1 class=reference>[2]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-2 class=reference>[3]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>6:55</TD><TD>Radical SR8</TD><TD>Michael Vergers</TD><TD>28 September 2005</TD><TD>Radical Sportscars<SUP id=cite_ref-3 class=reference>[4]</SUP> Timed by Sport Auto <SUP id=cite_ref-4 class=reference>[5]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-5 class=reference>[6]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-6 class=reference>[7]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:11.5</TD><TD>Gumpert Apollo Speed</TD><TD>Florian Gruber</TD><TD>13 August 2009</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:14.89</TD><TD>Donkervoort D8 270 RS</TD><TD>Michael Düchting</TD><TD>06 November 2006</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Short Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:18.1</TD><TD>Donkervoort D8 RS</TD><TD>Michael Düchting</TD><TD>24 October 2004</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:22.1</TD><TD>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</TD><TD>Tom Coronel</TD><TD>18 August 2008</TD><TD>Chrysler conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-7 class=reference>[8]</SUP> Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, DOT R Compound tires(Factory Installed), suspension adjustments,<SUP id=cite_ref-ARCsuspension_8-0 class=reference>[9]</SUP> aero adjustments, video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.3</TD><TD>Maserati MC12</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.7</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:25.3</TD><TD>Ferrari Enzo</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:26.4</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</TD><TD>Jim Mero</TD><TD>27 June 2008</TD><TD>General Motors conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-ZR1autoblog_9-0 class=reference>[10]</SUP> base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer), June 2008. Also, Sport Auto<SUP id=cite_ref-10 class=reference>[11]</SUP> published results of Horst von Saurma obtaining 7:38 on Michelin tires.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:26.70</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>23 April 2009</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test. Completed on standard Dunlop run flat tires, video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).<SUP id=cite_ref-11 class=reference>[12]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:27.82</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>September 2007</TD><TD>Pagani conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-ZondaTopGear_12-0 class=reference>[13]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-ZondaJalopnik_13-0 class=reference>[14]</SUP> semi-wet conditions<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:28.71</TD><TD>Porsche Carrera GT</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2 July 2004</TD><TD>Autobild (07/04) <SUP id=cite_ref-ZondaJalopnik_13-1 class=reference>[14]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:29.03</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>17 April 2008</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-14 class=reference>[15]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-15 class=reference>[16]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-16 class=reference>[17]</SUP>. The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:32.02</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-17 class=reference>[18]</SUP> R compound tires used.<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,350 ft)</TD><TD>7:33.6</TD><TD>Koenigsegg CCX</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:34</TD><TD>Koenigsegg CCR</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD>17 October 2005</TD><TD>Sport Auto (03/2006)<SUP id=cite_ref-18 class=reference>[19]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:34</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2</TD><TD></TD><TD>September 2008</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-PorscheAccusesNissan_19-0 class=reference>[20]</SUP> stock vehicle with stock tires</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:35</TD><TD>Ruf Rt 12</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (02/2008)<SUP id=cite_ref-20 class=reference>[21]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:38</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Turbo</TD><TD></TD><TD>September 2008</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-PorscheAccusesNissan_19-1 class=reference>[20]</SUP> stock vehicle with stock tires</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:38</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD>October 2009</TD><TD>Sport Auto "super test"<SUP id=cite_ref-21 class=reference>[22]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:38</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (07/2009),<SUP id=cite_ref-22 class=reference>[23]</SUP> Dunlop tires</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:39</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Turbo (2010)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>Porsche Conducted Test <SUP id=cite_ref-23 class=reference>[24]</SUP> Stock vehicle with stock tires</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:39</TD><TD>Ferrari 430 Scuderia</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (07/2008)<SUP id=cite_ref-24 class=reference>[25]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:40</TD><TD>Lamborghini Murcielago LP640</TD><TD>Giorgio Sanna</TD><TD></TD><TD>Lamborghini Autobild (01/2007)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:40</TD><TD>Bugatti Veyron 16.4</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>'Wheels' magazine (12/2005)<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (68,000 ft)</TD><TD>7:40</TD><TD>Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren</TD><TD>Klaus Ludwig</TD><TD></TD><TD>AutoBild (07/2004)<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:40</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 997MkII</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (06/2009)<SUP id=cite_ref-25 class=reference>[26]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:40.6</TD><TD>Ford GT</TD><TD>Markus Draper</TD><TD></TD><TD>Octane Magazine<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from September 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:42</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD></TD><TD>Automobil (05/2006) Sport Auto (05/2006)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:42</TD><TD>Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (01/2010?) <SUP id=cite_ref-26 class=reference>[27]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:42.99</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06</TD><TD>Jan Magnussen</TD><TD>2005</TD><TD>General Motors,<SUP id=cite_ref-27 class=reference>[28]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-28 class=reference>[29]</SUP> Motor Trend confirmed</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:43</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 RS</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>'Motor' magazine<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from September 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:44</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda S</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (02/2005)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:46</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (06/2001)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:46</TD><TD>Lamborgini Gallardo Superleggera</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (09/2007)<SUP id=cite_ref-29 class=reference>[30]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:46.36</TD><TD>Jaguar XJ220</TD><TD>John Neilsen</TD><TD></TD><TD>Evo (07/2000) <SUP id=cite_ref-30 class=reference>[31]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:47</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 RS</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (08/2004)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:47</TD><TD>Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto<SUP id=cite_ref-31 class=reference>[32]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:47</TD><TD>Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 E-gear</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (01/2007), Sport tires<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:49</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD>22 June 2007</TD><TD>Sport Auto<SUP id=cite_ref-32 class=reference>[33]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:49.0</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2</TD><TD>Chris Harris</TD><TD>November 2008</TD><TD>Drivers Republic<SUP id=cite_ref-magazines.drivers-republic.com_33-0 class=reference>[34]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:50</TD><TD>BMW M3 CSL</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (08/2003)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:50</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Carrera S (2009)</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (08/2008),<SUP id=cite_ref-34 class=reference>[35]</SUP> PCCB, PDK, Sport Chrono Plus, Michelin Cup tires</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:52</TD><TD>Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (11/2008),<SUP id=cite_ref-35 class=reference>[36]</SUP> apparently problems with tires and ABS</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:54</TD><TD>Mercedes CLK DTM AMG</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (03/2005)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:54</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R</TD><TD></TD><TD>September 2008</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-PorscheAccusesNissan_19-2 class=reference>[20]</SUP> stock vehicle with stock tires</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:54</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Turbo 997</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (05/2007)<SUP id=cite_ref-36 class=reference>[37]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:55</TD><TD>Caterham R500 Superlight</TD><TD>Robert Nearn</TD><TD></TD><TD>'EVO' magazine (07/2000)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:55</TD><TD>Ferrari F430 F1</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (01/2006)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:55.9</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R</TD><TD>Chris Harris</TD><TD>November 2008</TD><TD>Drivers Republic<SUP id=cite_ref-magazines.drivers-republic.com_33-1 class=reference>[34]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:56</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06</TD><TD>Dave Hill</TD><TD></TD><TD>crossedflags.com<SUP id=cite_ref-crossedflags.com_37-0 class=reference>[38]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:56</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Turbo</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (06/2000)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:56</TD><TD>Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale f1</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (02/2004), Sport tires<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:59</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51</TD><TD>Dave Hill</TD><TD></TD><TD>General Motors conducted test<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from July 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:59</TD><TD>Cadillac CTS-V (2009)</TD><TD>John Heinricy</TD><TD>9 May 2008</TD><TD>General Motors conducted test,<SUP id=cite_ref-38 class=reference>[39]</SUP> video confirmed<SUP id=cite_ref-39 class=reference>[40]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:59</TD><TD>Porsche 911 Carrera S</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD></TD><TD>'Wheels' magazine (06/2004), PASM setting "Performance"<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:59</TD><TD>Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 V-Spec</TD><TD>Dirk Schoysman</TD><TD>1996</TD><TD>Best Motoring - Time Attack / Autocar magazine 97, stock<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from August 2008">[citation needed]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-40 class=reference>[41]</SUP></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:59</TD><TD>Dodge Viper SRT-10</TD><TD></TD><TD>November 2005</TD><TD>Motor Trend<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from September 2008">[citation needed]</SUP></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

Too big, too heavy, and too ugly.

And this is coming from a Nissan guy (3 Z32's (technically 4), 1 350z, 1 Sentra SE-R, and 1 Murano (still in the fleet)).

As far as signing paperwork, just buy a used one from a private individual...

///Michael

 

WOW, love the banter. If a GTR is all you can afford, drive it and enjoy it. HOWEVER, "everything" is being compared to a PORSCHE (and always has been) and there is "NO" comparison. We already know that. Thank you nissan owners and I hope there are no recalls in your future.

 

Clairvoyance? Surely there is enough customer feedback out now to see how some gtr customers are being handled when problems strike within the 3 year warranty period. I really dont think you need a crystal ball to see what will happen outside the warranty period. If you can get your hands on a copy of this months Motor Magazine (Aus) and read the letters section, there is a very unhappy Gtr owner who wrote how he was told by Nissan that the replacement of all the disc rotors on his car was not warrantable. He went further to add how his car had done only 20,000km of country work since new only a year or so back (and not track work or city Ks he added) and was in total misbelief how Nissan totally blew him off after a great deal of arguing his case and left him with the 18 grand bill. No goodwill...no nothing. Thats right...read it for yourself. The mag also had an article on the gtr vs new 2010 gt3. You may need some tissues tho.

 

Jasper wont believe me when i say this but a customer of ours with less than 500 miles GTR is in the shop with electrical issues and he was telling me how his friend got stuck in his driveway with no reverse.. Ill try to get more details.. You get what you pay for..

Just got an out of warranty service on my M5 on a good will.. once again the Germans stand behind their products..

Mike