Car & Driver 997.2 Turbo 0-60 2.9 seconds!!!
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Hybrid tires.
ZR-1 has hybrid PS2's. A combination of MPSC and PS2 compound.
When Porsche puts some real tires on the Turbo, it's going to put a lot of cars to shame.
Maybe they are saving the good tires for the Turbo S. Or maybe they don't want to disturb the hierarchy too much (meaning the GT2 and GT3). We have never seen so many tests of the Turbo without MPSC before. Doesn't make sense unless they were saving something. That's the only logic I can come up with.
Of course I'm assuming that since all of the European magazines were testing on non MPSC that this one was as well. I haven't read the magazine.
ZR-1 has hybrid PS2's. A combination of MPSC and PS2 compound.
When Porsche puts some real tires on the Turbo, it's going to put a lot of cars to shame.
Maybe they are saving the good tires for the Turbo S. Or maybe they don't want to disturb the hierarchy too much (meaning the GT2 and GT3). We have never seen so many tests of the Turbo without MPSC before. Doesn't make sense unless they were saving something. That's the only logic I can come up with.
Of course I'm assuming that since all of the European magazines were testing on non MPSC that this one was as well. I haven't read the magazine.
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Confirmed my suspicion during the test drive of this fantastic car: http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread...ion/page1.html
Regarding the amazing time, I think 3 factors at play:
1. More power as Alex/Sharkwerks mentioned,
2. 4wd traction, and
3. PDK and turbo = a match made in heaven. It's not just about the fast shift but also there is no loss in boost between shifts.
Three seconds 0-60 is a landmark achievement for mass production cars! PAG engineers should be congratulated for this.
Regarding track times, the discussion has come up several times and I am surprised no one has brought up the very important point that the Turbo is set up to be a grand touring car; its suspension is good for street driving, but not for the track. It is very soft and there is a lot of weight transfer and body roll compared to the GT3 for example.
If PAG wants to, they could give the Turbo a firmer, track oriented suspension, then it would be out to kill. But that's not the mission of this car -- it's meant to be a dual purpose daily driver. An amazing MONSTER at that.
Regarding the amazing time, I think 3 factors at play:
1. More power as Alex/Sharkwerks mentioned,
2. 4wd traction, and
3. PDK and turbo = a match made in heaven. It's not just about the fast shift but also there is no loss in boost between shifts.
Three seconds 0-60 is a landmark achievement for mass production cars! PAG engineers should be congratulated for this.
Regarding track times, the discussion has come up several times and I am surprised no one has brought up the very important point that the Turbo is set up to be a grand touring car; its suspension is good for street driving, but not for the track. It is very soft and there is a lot of weight transfer and body roll compared to the GT3 for example.
If PAG wants to, they could give the Turbo a firmer, track oriented suspension, then it would be out to kill. But that's not the mission of this car -- it's meant to be a dual purpose daily driver. An amazing MONSTER at that.
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Regarding track times, the discussion has come up several times and I am surprised no one has brought up the very important point that the Turbo is set up to be a grand touring car; its suspension is good for street driving, but not for the track. It is very soft and there is a lot of weight transfer and body roll compared to the GT3 for example.
If PAG wants to, they could give the Turbo a firmer, track oriented suspension, then it would be out to kill. But that's not the mission of this car -- it's meant to be a dual purpose daily driver. An amazing MONSTER at that.
I've brought that up several times with the rabid fanboy population that takes this section over. Porsche could run circles around the GT-R whenever their ready. But it doesn't apply to the business model.
For street cars on street tires, the Turbo is the ideal performance benchmark, but Porsche has been watering it down to keep the GT3 ahead of it for years now.
If they took the cork off of it and designed a motorsport AWD suspension for it, they'd make Nissan look like the second tier performance company they are. But it's beneficial to the motorsport community to keep the GT3 at the head or close too it.
The Turbo is no longer the flagship of Porsche. The GT3 and the motorsport community that comes along with it is the flagship. And rightfully so. The flagship must be protected. But for the street, it is not the ideal application for being the fastest. Porsche could easily make a Turbo to run with the likes of an ACR. That would never happen with a flat 6 NA street GT3.
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Even more respectful when one looks how it compares to the Carrera GT with 605hp.
Carrera GT/997.2 turbo
0-60--- 3.9/2.9
0-100---7.1/6.8
1/4---11.4/11.0
Article on Carrera GT:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2387.html
Carrera GT/997.2 turbo
0-60--- 3.9/2.9
0-100---7.1/6.8
1/4---11.4/11.0
Article on Carrera GT:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2387.html
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Or is that what happens when the accelerator pedal gets stuck?
Laugh it up!
I recant, I mean my 440 hp IS-F..........floor mats optional
Interesting tests. I guess it confirms my findings that the new 997.2 TT makes much more than the claimed 500 HP by Porsche. When I posted the dyno results from our tests, there were some who did not believe us. From what I have found, the 997.2TT makes ~525-530 HP/TQ stock.