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Old 03-17-2010, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by milou
This is a statement which is difficult to believe,
But not with a 40 mph tailwind
 
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TTdude
But not with a 40 mph tailwind
So its must be mentioned

With bad fuel (less than 91 octan) my car did 100-200 in 7 flat
no tailwind
 
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Originally Posted by 997John
So its must be mentioned

With bad fuel (less than 91 octan) my car did 100-200 in 7 flat
no tailwind
7 flat--no argument here. And you own a tip, right?
 
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TTdude
7 flat--no argument here. And you own a tip, right?
Yes it is tip, but don't forget i did that in 6 flat with 93 octan and 5.72 with race fuel.
 
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 997John
Yes it is tip, but don't forget i did that in 6 flat with 93 octan and 5.72 with race fuel.
Great times. Your mods are flash and exhaust only? Tips are definitely quicker.
 
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No it is a modified with VGTs,proto intake and 4.5" IC with prototeck exhaust system.
 
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I cotacted a tuner in Greece who customly tune ECU's on the street and dyno, from his experience he said that a 6,0 sec 100-200 cannot be achieved with not modded VTG's, on pump fuel. He is the distriputor of an American tuner who is also a board sponsor, and who has great reputation, he said that the best 100-200 time based on ther 700sh VTG kit is 6,0 sec. He never saw anything lower on pump fuel using a PBOX.
He also told me to check out a Greek magazine where a 700sh 997tt did:
0-60: 1,7sec
0-80: 2,44
0-100: 3,16
0-120: 4,03
0-140: 5,15
0-160: 6,39
0-180: 7,84
0-200: 9,67
0-220: 12,95

18m 1,93sec
60m 3,62
100m 4,79
200m 7,15
400m 10,89

60-120km 2,53sec
60-160km 4,84
60-200km 8,08
100-200km 6,43

This car had modded VTGs, I/Cs, headers, exhaust/cats, modded Y-pipe, ECU, and sport air filter, the car is a tiptronic and was the fastest car in the comparison of the mag. With less HP compared to the other cars.
The times where measured with a PBOX in a track.
 
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Originally Posted by 997John
No it is a modified with VGTs,proto intake and 4.5" IC with prototeck exhaust system.
This makes sense to me. You have a very fast car. Congrats. I think MadSex said he did a 6.1 (100-200) with 6speed, flash and exhaust only on 93 which I find remarkable.
 
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Originally Posted by milou
I cotacted a tuner in Greece who customly tune ECU's on the street and dyno, from his experience he said that a 6,0 sec 100-200 cannot be achieved with not modded VTG's, on pump fuel. He is the distriputor of an American tuner who is also a board sponsor, and who has great reputation, he said that the best 100-200 time based on ther 700sh VTG kit is 6,0 sec. He never saw anything lower on pump fuel using a PBOX.
He also told me to check out a Greek magazine where a 700sh 997tt did:
0-60: 1,7sec
0-80: 2,44
0-100: 3,16
0-120: 4,03
0-140: 5,15
0-160: 6,39
0-180: 7,84
0-200: 9,67
0-220: 12,95

18m 1,93sec
60m 3,62
100m 4,79
200m 7,15
400m 10,89

60-120km 2,53sec
60-160km 4,84
60-200km 8,08
100-200km 6,43

This car had modded VTGs, I/Cs, headers, exhaust/cats, modded Y-pipe, ECU, and sport air filter, the car is a tiptronic and was the fastest car in the comparison of the mag. With less HP compared to the other cars.
The times where measured with a PBOX in a track.
Thanks for that post. Puts things into a certain perspective.
 
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i believe you spoke with Greg....However Madsex car did this time and i was there and saw it...And my car has 6,3 with just a flash...and its a tip...and pump fuel...I have it only five days so i only did one run from standstill to 140km in a sligtly wet road...
 
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times extracted from the above diagram are...
0-60km 1,8
0-100km 3,17
0-120km 4sec
0-140km 5,18
These were achieved on a completely flat surface...More to come next days...
0-18m 1,91sec
0-100m 4,8sec
 

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Originally Posted by TTdude
This makes sense to me. You have a very fast car. Congrats. I think MadSex said he did a 6.1 (100-200) with 6speed, flash and exhaust only on 93 which I find remarkable.

I know you find it hard to believe but it is true and everyone (esp our Cypriot neighbour who is also close to us) can come and check the car and then I can take him for a ride!!! My run was verified here so there is no questions about that and I have countless runs recorded with similar times... Heck even my 996 Turbo S ran 6.8 sec 100-200km/h with just a flash and an exhaust with cats... (always manual) (and before the K24/18g's becuase after it was running 5.5secs)

You can also ask Todd K. about me and my car who can verify everything...

I don't mean to brag here or start a "tune war" .... I even told you that the tune I now have in my car is not even the best and I have tried another that was even faster... I am currently working on that and will let you know (via verified runs always) if I get any faster...
 

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Originally Posted by milou
This is a statement which is difficult to believe,
Why is this hard to believe? He has a verified datalog to prove the time.

The only things that aren't on the datalog are temperature and octane rating. But the time is valid.
 

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Originally Posted by bbywu
Why is this hard to believe? He has a verified datalog to prove the time.

The only things that aren't on the datalog are temperature and octane rating. But the time is valid.
Thanks for the support .... if my memory serves me right outside temperature was about 14 Deg Celsius and the octane was what I always use so far in the 997, which is pump premium unleaded BP rated 100oct RON (equivalent to 93-95 there if not mistaking)

Never tried race gas yet....

I don't feel that my car is that fast and I do think that a Proto 700 can achieve a better time in 100-200 km/h than the one originally posted here and that is why I jumped in ... Maybe conditions were not optimal, maybe there is a leak somewhere or something... However, in my opinion (and believe me after lots and lots of testing ) even after achieving the very best time for 100-200km/h with a 700 kit it will not be that far off from my car... The differences between the different stages start to show after 200km/h where peak power and torque counts the most... That is the reason as well that a flash only car can keep up or even be ahead in the 1/4 mile (higher HP cars tend to have more wheelspin and/or less usable for take offs torque/power curves) than a higher rated HP car and have seen it in person quite a few times in our midnight streeracing sessions...

It all deoends on the conditions of each race (standstill/rollon) and the distance from start to finish!!!
 
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Originally Posted by madsex343
Thanks for the support .... if my memory serves me right outside temperature was about 14 Deg Celsius and the octane was what I always use so far in the 997, which is pump premium unleaded BP rated 100oct RON (equivalent to 93-95 there if not mistaking)

Never tried race gas yet....

I don't feel that my car is that fast and I do think that a Proto 700 can achieve a better time in 100-200 km/h than the one originally posted here and that is why I jumped in ... Maybe conditions were not optimal, maybe there is a leak somewhere or something... However, in my opinion (and believe me after lots and lots of testing ) even after achieving the very best time for 100-200km/h with a 700 kit it will not be that far off from my car... The differences between the different stages start to show after 200km/h where peak power and torque counts the most... That is the reason as well that a flash only car can keep up or even be ahead in the 1/4 mile (higher HP cars tend to have more wheelspin and/or less usable for take offs torque/power curves) than a higher rated HP car and have seen it in person quite a few times in our midnight streeracing sessions...

It all deoends on the conditions of each race (standstill/rollon) and the distance from start to finish!!!
Absolutely correct. The numbers are also influenced if the driver did a dedicated run for a certain distance, as technique changes for 60-130 versus a flat out Vmax.

As a reference, my Ruf 550 ran a 7.31 on a 60-130 on 93 octane on winter tires with a temperature of about 35-40 degrees. I have also trapped 126mph on a quarter mile strip.

Looking forward to more numbers and congrats.
 

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