...why do all the 'super-performance' P cars CGT, GT3 GT3RS and now the new GT2 all have only 6 speed. Not trying to be a smart a**. Just curious. Any thoughts?
Jim

 

They all have the dry sump engine and the heat issues would effect PDK.

 

Stick shift FTW! I love stick shift more of a driver+Road experience.

 

Well... It's not because the car would be slower with it.

I can't think of a single instance where a similarly equipped stick would be faster than a PDK car around a track.

In the case of the CGT.. The PDK was not available at the time.

In the case of the GT2 I think that the power level may be too high for the capability of the PDK. Also it could have something to do with mating the transmission to the old style engine.

In the case of the GT3 / RS? Not sure... Maybe it would just be unfair?

For me I would never buy a stick over a PDK. But I still want a GT2RS

One other thing... I wonder how the value of the current GT3 and GT3 RS would be impacted if a PDK unit were available. Especially if it was proven to shave lap time which it most certainly would do.

 

Willing to bet last generation 2010-11 GT3/RS are big time collector cars 10 years from now when there is no manual offered and GT1(Metzger) block is long gone. Of course, dual clutch saves time in all cases, but thats not what the "driving experience" is all about. In addition, few drivers are capable of really exploiting the differences. The money is better spent on proper track days and instruction on car dynamics, car control, and threshold braking.

 

And the turbo doesn't ???

at least mine does !

 

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DFI PDK Turbos have oil temps that regularly run 50-100F warmer than the Mezger engine. Can you please elaborate?

 

One engine design across the 911 line = one transmission design for PDK...

 

I don't think Porsche had finished design with the PDK when the CGT came out. Whatever the reason, Porsche is not putting PDK on the GT1 Mertzger engine and the GT3/RS are homologated for racing.

Therefore whatever engine they run in the GT3 is run in racing. If they change the design of the motor for the street car, they will have to change it in the race car too and they don't want to do that just yet.

The Mertzger is proven, and if it's not broke................



That's one reason (the simple one).

 

PDK takes out the FUN & SKILL out of driving. Im not raging on the PDK, I sure love keeping my foot on the floor and just tap the shifter with my fingers but there's more to driving than that.

Do Ferrari's have crappy tranny's or is it just me? Last week there was a BRAND NEW F430 Scuderia, starts off the light really rough/jerky until it gets rolling to about 10mph. And the gears shifts sounded really CLUNKY.

 

If you have a .2 turbo you do not have a true dry sump, aka Mezger engine like the .1 turbos and all 997 gt3/RSs. You do have what Porsche calls the "integrated dry sump, however it is not the same.

 

All good reasons...

My wife LOVES the new PDK. She is a big fan of dual clutch setups. I believe you're going to see the majority of sales getting the PDK over the single clutch setup. Eventually, as more R&D goes into the PDK, and racing regulations change - you'll see the transmission shift to a standard PDK with a PAID option of a single manual clutch pedal.

For the poster with the bet that 2010-2011 becoming a classic, I second that premise. Eventually the traditional manual transmission will go the way of the manual starter (I'd venture to say it already has, because of electonically controlled 'manual' clutches).

 

The .2 DFI motors have more in common with the Boxster/Cayman/NA997 than the previous generation Turbo. The PDK across the line is all about saving money, I mean the thing was developed from the 962 program. One transmission and one engine for everyone is pure cost savings, no need for the hand built racing engines anymore.

 

Porsche GT models = pure, hardcore, huge degree of driver involvement, track orientated.
Porsche PDK models = more comfortable, perfect allrounders, less communication between driver and car, meant to be daily driven.