Silly me... I thought the poster I was responding to referred to the traditional manual clutch pedal (as opposed to the paddle shifting trend like the PDK offers).

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand these gearboxes. Any 8 yr old who plays Gran Turismo knows about these transmissions. Please don't flatter yourself.

What exactly about my reporting that removing some of the "fun and excitement" is what some owners want for their drivers confuses you?

Perhaps I can better explain. If you are parsing useless crap and attempting to 'look' intelligent by pointing out the differences between a SINGLE CLUTCH sequential paddle shifter (as offered in the Lexus LF-A, E46 M3), and DUAL CLUTCH paddle shifter (as offered in the GT-R, E90 M3, PDK in Porsches, Bugattis, and SST in the Mitsu's, etc...), then safe your keystrokes - because it is completely irrelevant.

My point - paddle shifting transmissions are quicker - AT WHAT POINT DOES RACING BECOME MORE ABOUT FUN THAN TRACK TIME?

I said that these transmissions would be better suited on track (paraphrased from an earlier post), but a side benefit is easier daily driving capability.

 

Playing name that transmission doesn't change the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about. And no 8 year olds don't know the difference, you sure didn't.

That's all I'm saying.

 

Really? Because it sure sounded like you thought there was a big difference in the NAME.

let me show you (in case you forgot):

The only thing you've successfully done is pointlessly derail this thread. I'm sure any other person with common sense understood exactly what I meant paddleshifting dual clutch cars vs single clutch manual gearboxes (isn't that was this thread was about?).

For some reason you added this:
Did I respond to this? Did I agrue this? Was I trying to correct you? I ignored it, because I don't believe this had ANYTHING to do with my post that you responded to.

Let me know when you have something relevant to add, instead of attempting to condescend others based on your own trivial nonsense.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth, and it's getting boring (I'll give you an example so you don't respond childishly: The "Name that transmission" comment that followed the "not all seq are..." statement).

Of course not all sequentials are paddle shift. Again, my 8 yr old knows this. Hell, my 4 yr old knows how to shift a sequential stick. Didn't they have these in the arcades back in the '80s? These aren't industry secrets man, and you're not the only one who knows about transmissions.

 

Not names Jasper, types. Don't try to act clueless know because you actually DO know what I'm talking about.

 

I think you two need to hug it out...

 

HAHAHAHAH, good one.

 

According to you, I don't. How does that have anything to do with the original comment (that I had intended on responding to - which was already replied to) about PDKs not being as much fun? And that the poster already acknowledged that dual clutch setups are quicker (not actual words used), but uninvolving. My reply was about having paddle shifts instead of a traditional single clutch pedal setup.

How does any of your ranting have ANY relevance to that exchange (that was already completed between the two understanding parties)?

 

That pic was taken before I got a GT-R.

 

I love how the new engine is considered inferior to the old one..

Why?

Because is sucks less gas?
Has 40 less parts?
Is generally more powerfull?

Or is it because you can't boost it to 2X the stock power level? Is that really how an engine should be judged? Has a new engine actually had a problem?

Is it because it does not have the same true dry sump? Is there a problem with the motor starving for oil?

The fact is that the new motor with the PDK is better than the system it replaces in stock form. It is so good in fact that you really don't need to do anything to it.

Like every car before it over time tuners will get more power out of it.

 

Know the application.........

Porsche isn't known for it's regular motors, this is not Toyota. It's known for it's race motors which are on all of it's GT cars. For a street application I agree, the A91 is a better application. And being that, Porsche should easily be able to derive a forged reliable motor to handle FI applications.

However Porsche's history is so embedded in racing, you can't separate the motor from racing. Obviously Porsche can make a good V8 race engine like the one in the Spyder, however it is too be determined if this A91 design can compete at the highest levels.

And don't forget the top gear episode where the Prius got worse gas mileage than the M3 at full blast. When making performance engines, it's a completely different story, this isn't putting on the highway at 2k rpms.

 

<< Sits back with a bag of popcorn and watches the sparks fly

 

The PDK Turbo is not a dry sump. It's an "integrated" dry sump .
The 07-09 Turbos are dry sump and would not be PDK compatible,

 

Are you suggesting the presence of a true dry sump lubrication system on earlier models is the reason why PDK would not be compatible?

 

And here I thought it was because the GT1 engine was too long for the PDK to fit. So much to learn, so little time left.