I think you missed one..

 

I didn't think Aussies could be serious.

 

Also, RS style center lock wheels. And I read somewhere about modified exhaust and suspension mounts.

 

Sure..well ther ya go ruffy ole mate.

Serious... about making sure we really are having a good time Seriously.
I mean the good times really do "have to roll on"....or then there could be a very serious problem

 

Hi TXTurbo. I would love to hear what your ownership experience has been so far. I am going back and forth between the PDK and Manual on a new one. I really thought I wanted a manual but I think everyone probably obssess' about the ttS after a test drive. It pulls like a locomotive. Have you had any mechanical issues, or concerns or feelings of missing a P manual tranny? Thanks.
Jim

 

The Turbo S also sounds louder, more raw, more aggressive. Every road test on it I've come across states it.

 

Be VERY VERY careful about buying a PDK car if you are a manual die-hard. Get several test drives before jumping in as this is a mistake you don't want to make. There is no question about the overwhelming acceleration advantage of a PDK turbo, but for the majority of the time, you *might* find PDK to be somewhat of a boring car to drive, especially if you "want a manual." You have to ask if the acceleration advantage is worth the lack of driving involvement (for some, YMMV, etc.).

Re. exhaust of Turbo S, I believe it's the Cayenne Turbo S that has modified exhaust, not the 997.2 Turbo S.

I've listened to and driven every Porsche turbo cars, including GT2, and 997.2 Turbo. They ALL share one thing in common: all have very docile, quiet, and boring stock exhaust sound. I do not expect Turbo S to be much different.

While 997.2 Turbo sounds better than 997.1 Turbo (deeper and slightly louder, less hair-dryer whiny), it doesn't come remotely close to a good after-market system in "excitement" and loudness. Just listen and you will see what I mean.

 

Exactly my dilemma. And this 'almost boring' has been mentioned in the M/T Car and Driver etc. right after touting its mind blowing acceleration.
Jim

 

I am driving the PDK every single day.

While it is less entertaining than a MT car, it is definitely worth it if you get stuck in traffic a lot.

On the other hand, what truly bothers me about the PDK is the limitations on power holding (torque holding).

Again, if you plan on modding the car with any ambitious power/torque targets, please don't make the mistake I did, go with a manual tranny!

 

Sounds like a ***** in the armor.

Seriously, someone will get it sorted sooner or later so you can hold more torque.

In the meantime you'll just have to live with 'merely' blazing acceleration.

 

I have owned a 997.1 6sp,and agree that it is a wonderful and more intimate feeling to accelerate and go through the gears manually
The tts simply foregoes that in order to get you wherever you want to go....faster
...

 

When in "manual" mode there is no limitation on power holding (torque holding) in stock form.....you can get it up as much as you desire.

That should not enter into the equation.....whether you want manual or PDK for other reasons is a different question

Also if heavy modding is your objective that's another discussion.

 

Hi. I would be curious to know what you mean by the 'limitations on power holding (torque holding)' Thanks.
Jim

 

I agree, would like to hear from people who have driven both.

 

To some, my remark will be heresy but having owned a 2007 Turbo Tip (an anathema), a 2008 Turbo MT, and now a 2011 Turbo S which I have had for 3 months I wish I had not sold the 2008 Turbo. Not a novice when it comes to Porsche ownership as I have driven Porsches for a quarter of a century and the 2008 Turbo was the most enjoyable of all. Cannga speaks the truth; of course, I am a manual die-hard. I wonder if the new MT Turbo uses the same transmission that was coupled to the Mezger.