I have 20inch HRE p40s on my car and a track day coming up in the next month. I was wondering if you guys thought those wheels will be ok on the track? obviously this is a very high quality wheel and the performance is amazing since i got them, i just wanted to get some opinions on bringing them to the track. Normally you go with a smaller rim, do you think ill be fine with mine?

-Eric

 

Well if you do want a true track sets up not to beat up your street tires and wheels i have HRE R40 with r888 tires in stock no waiting .. Im also in florida . Thanks Ben

But your wheels should be no problem you tires might get chewed up pretty bad lol..

 

The 20" P40S will be fine on the track, but won't be the most competitive. As Ben stated, something in a 18" or 19" would be better and allow you to run a track tire. Main consideration would be using a street tire on the track. Most street tires do not handle the temperature that track driving puts on them.

The R40 with the Toyo R888 would really make you happy on the track. Make sure to do a warm up lap before getting on those tires They like to get up to temperature for optimal performance.

 

i understand.. well i think im gunna go ahead and use my p40 wheels for this track day and see how it goes, then after that ill consider getting a track set . appreciate the info guys i will be running PS2 tires how will they hold up on the track?

 

They will be fine for the first couple of laps. But once you get couple hot laps in, you will notice that the tires will be over its optimal temperatures, you'll want to take it easier, brake sooner It all depends on how hard you are on braking, turning, acceleration ... Which all effects how hot the tires get.

But its definitely a great idea to see how the car performs, and then make changes where you need it. But if you plan to hit up the track on a regular biases, definitely talk to Ben about those R40's and Toyo R888's.

Same goes with customers with the OEM wheels/tires. You'll see the same issues, and then when you upgrade wheels, you'll see an improvement with the lower unsprung weight, and then step up to R compound tires, and you'll notice another improvement. But most important part is to improve your personal driving skills, not just improving the vehicles performance.

 

If you're new to the track, just run your street setup with street tires. Check your tire pressure and try to be smooth. Don't even consider track wheels and tires until you are an experienced solo driver, you will be wasting your money, regardless of what people selling wheels and tires might suggest. I'm sure they mean well, but until you're ready for track tires, you really need the feedback street tires provide. Been there, done that. Jmo

 

thank you , very good insight i agree with you.. I think ill be good to go for now

 

I will humbly disagree on this point - I do think that track tires are unnecessary from an 'improvement' standpoint until you have learned how to track, my concern is the manner in which street tires tend to overheat and then suddenly 'give way. I have tracked a number of cars prior to my 997tt and when you get dedicated track tires they tend to give you a lot of warning when they are getting overheated. My experience with street tires is that many can seem to be sticking very well and then suddenly overheat and let go with almost no advance warning (i.e. you can take a corner at the same speed and angle that has worked the entire day, but suddenly find yourself sliding out of control as your street tires were suddenly pushed just past the point of no return). Only happened to me once during me recent DE but puckered me enough that I will run a track setup from now on.... Just my $.02

 

hmm very interesting, i see where your coming from..i am going to try and get the michelin sport cups in the new sizes for my HREs, somone just said they released 20 inch sizes...if so then this will solve the problem your saying could be created from running the ps2s.

 

when you get ready to buy track wheels, there are some 18" wheels that will clear the PCCB brakes made by CCW. They are usually about $2500 a set and can be custom ordered with specific offsets for your GT2. Very popular option amongst the track warriors

 

Interesting! yeah i think if im going to go with a track set i mine as well go with the best performance from the 18s if that is possible..

 

18's are definitely the pick. 19's will do but 20's....ew.