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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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Brake upgrading?

Hi guys!

I have tryed my buddy's 997TT today, bone stock but PCCB...
Wow!!
In comparison with mine (bone stock iron), it is night and day!
I do not know about the real braking power, but the feeling is fabulous!

What are the upgrades available for mine?

thxs,

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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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PCCBs and Porsche OEM steel rotor brakes have nearly identical stopping distances.
 
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Originally Posted by K24F
Hi guys!

I have tryed my buddy's 997TT today, bone stock but PCCB...
Wow!!
In comparison with mine (bone stock iron), it is night and day!
I do not know about the real braking power, but the feeling is fabulous!

What are the upgrades available for mine?

thxs,

P.
One of the easiest mods would be to try a more aggressive brake pad. Pagid makes several compounds that are available for the 997tt. The tradeoff is more brake squeal and possibly more dust
 
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Totally agree. I upgraded my brakes from Porsche steel to ceramic. Night and day. But on paper, it doesn't seem to reflect the difference at all.
 
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I also need to upgrade my brakes but i don't want to spend a fortune on PCCB's
I've read in this forum that the best option is the GiroDisc slotted rotors with Pagid pads
 
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I use GiroDisc slotted rotors and Pagid RS29 Yellow pads and am very happy. Perform very well on the track and wearing great. This was a great upgrade for me from OEM. I also added steel brake lines, GT2 cooling ducts in the rear and cut a holes in the front fender well liners ( approx 6"X10" covered in SS mesh ) to help fronts stay cool. I have driven a Turbo S with PCCB recently and could not see any overall improvements in braking on track from my set up. Good luck with your upgrade what ever your decision.
 
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I use GiroDisc slotted rotors and Pagid RS29 Yellow pads and am very happy. Perform very well on the track and wearing great. This was a great upgrade for me from OEM. I also added steel brake lines, GT2 cooling ducts in the rear and cut a holes in the front fender well liners ( approx 6"X10" covered in SS mesh ) to help fronts stay cool. I have driven a Turbo S with PCCB recently and could not see any overall improvements in braking on track from my set up. Good luck with your upgrade what ever your decision.

how is the dusting compared to the stock setup for street?
 
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I've heard nothing but complaints from track enthusiasts running ceramics simply because they are too expensive for the performance advantage it provides. I know several who've cast off their PCCB setups and gone back to steel rotor setups as they don't want to pay thousands every few track days to replace the worn disk. And on the street, what's the point other than bling factor?
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
PCCBs and Porsche OEM steel rotor brakes have nearly identical stopping distances.
I called my Porsche center today, they confirmed me that.
 
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To Gene:

My tuned 993TT fitted with orange Pagid ans stock rotors brakes quite well but produces a "purple" dust I do not like...

To Vpmick:

Thanks for infos, my car is fitted with inox brake lines too, RBF600 but stock rotors and pads; what about the "GiroDiscs" slotted rotors?
As I said before I run Pagid with another car, but they "scream" so loud I'm ashamed to brake in town!!
Is it the same for the RS29?
 
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Originally Posted by K24F
I called my Porsche center today, they confirmed me that.
The determining factor in braking distance is the grip of the tire, not the brakes. Higher performance brake systems just have more heat capacity to resist brake fade.
 
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The determining factor in braking distance is the grip of the tire, not the brakes. Higher performance brake systems just have more heat capacity to resist brake fade.
Exactly!
 
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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To ECLOU: I don't notice the dust much...but again, my car is almost always driven on the track and there is so much other dust, dirt, tire rubber etc. that it' hard to really determine difference vs. OEM.

To K24F: Yes the RS29 pad does squeal some until they warm up. IMHO, OEM pads/rotors are fine if you never track your car as it's really not safe nor practical to really jump on your brakes to the degree you do on the track while driving on the street. If you are going to track your car only on rare occasions your speeds probably won't warrant upgrading brakes ( except fluid ). If you really want to, and don't like dust and squeal maybe get a spare set of track pads and swap them out as you go to track.
 
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