OEM short shifter kit
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Ryan, interesting! So I am better off with my Turbo SSK then, at least as far as the short throw is concerned.
The GT3 kit OTOH has the aluminum bushing - I wonder if this gives a more precise feel to the shift? Hmmm hmmm. Is there a way to switch just the bushing?
FWIW, I have sat in GT2 a few times to test out the shifter and did notice that at least stationary, it somehow feels different and "slicker" (click click vs. thump thump LOL) than my Turbo's SSK. I've thought it possibly is all in my head (GT2 stock shifter versus Turbo SSK) but now I believe you just gave the reason why. It's got to be the aluminum bushing.
The GT3 kit OTOH has the aluminum bushing - I wonder if this gives a more precise feel to the shift? Hmmm hmmm. Is there a way to switch just the bushing?
FWIW, I have sat in GT2 a few times to test out the shifter and did notice that at least stationary, it somehow feels different and "slicker" (click click vs. thump thump LOL) than my Turbo's SSK. I've thought it possibly is all in my head (GT2 stock shifter versus Turbo SSK) but now I believe you just gave the reason why. It's got to be the aluminum bushing.
I guess the bushings can be switched, however there is not a part number listed for just the bushings... You will need to purchase the GT3 shifter and pull out the bushings then put them in the ssk. For what little you gain, I would have a hard time justifying $385 and a few hours to swap out the bushings.
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Guys I felt like I need to chime on the short shift kit vs GT3 shift console.
The GT3 shift console is not a true short throw shifter. It will be the same length in the throws as your current 997 Turbo stock setup, however it does have the billet aluminum bushings.
The short shift kit will indeed have a 20% shorter throw than the GT3 shift console, however it has plastic bushings. Having said that, there has been 0 cases of the plastic bushings going bad (that we are aware of).
Hope my reply helped clear up some confusion.
If you need any other info on the kits we have both parts listed on our website here:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/X99742498300.html
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//997SCU.html
Let me know if we can help anyone out!
The GT3 shift console is not a true short throw shifter. It will be the same length in the throws as your current 997 Turbo stock setup, however it does have the billet aluminum bushings.
The short shift kit will indeed have a 20% shorter throw than the GT3 shift console, however it has plastic bushings. Having said that, there has been 0 cases of the plastic bushings going bad (that we are aware of).
Hope my reply helped clear up some confusion.
If you need any other info on the kits we have both parts listed on our website here:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/X99742498300.html
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//997SCU.html
Let me know if we can help anyone out!
When I had the GT3 kit installed(997.1TT) the plastic finger insert that holds the shift lever stationary in order to "set" the cable lengths definitely has a different profile from the original which does dictate a difference in the throw. This is a great addition and the aluminum bushings are nice to have and are very smooth. I don't know what the percentage difference is in throw but there is a difference. As I recall the new plastic insert has a lower(?) profile than the OEM.
I hope I am making sense. And I hope you might explain this for the guys and me following this thread.
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I have a question about this, me and someone I know have both '07 TT's and our shifters are different. His looks like to have a short shifter compared to mine and he said he bought it completely stock.
You guys are saying that there were no such option available on TT's, strange!
You guys are saying that there were no such option available on TT's, strange!
No there was an option for a TT short shift his could have come like that from factory ,where trying to figure out if the GT3 one is even shorter than the upgraded TT option ,which it seems like it's not after all,sure felt diff when i had it put in.
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Ryan:
When I had the GT3 kit installed(997.1TT) the plastic finger insert that holds the shift lever stationary in order to "set" the cable lengths definitely has a different profile from the original which does dictate a difference in the throw. This is a great addition and the aluminum bushings are nice to have and are very smooth. I don't know what the percentage difference is in throw but there is a difference. As I recall the new plastic insert has a lower(?) profile than the OEM.
I hope I am making sense. And I hope you might explain this for the guys and me following this thread.
Ed
When I had the GT3 kit installed(997.1TT) the plastic finger insert that holds the shift lever stationary in order to "set" the cable lengths definitely has a different profile from the original which does dictate a difference in the throw. This is a great addition and the aluminum bushings are nice to have and are very smooth. I don't know what the percentage difference is in throw but there is a difference. As I recall the new plastic insert has a lower(?) profile than the OEM.
I hope I am making sense. And I hope you might explain this for the guys and me following this thread.
Ed
What I do know is the short shift kit will be 20% shorter throw than both the 997/997TT shift console and the 997.2 GT3 shift console. That has been clearly stated by the information provided by Porsche.
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Other options?
Does anybody have any comments on other short shifters? I see an AGENCY POWER SHORT SHIFTER on Ebay, has anybody here installed one? They claim a 35% reduction and have an upgrade to a billet shift linkage in lieu of the plastic one that comes stock.
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The GT3 shift console will feel different than the shift console in a 997 TT, that is because of the bushings. The GT3 being a shorter throw, I cannot confirm that. As far as I know they are the same distance... Like you said it could be a small percentage shorter, but I do not have any info from Porsche stating that.
What I do know is the short shift kit will be 20% shorter throw than both the 997/997TT shift console and the 997.2 GT3 shift console. That has been clearly stated by the information provided by Porsche.
What I do know is the short shift kit will be 20% shorter throw than both the 997/997TT shift console and the 997.2 GT3 shift console. That has been clearly stated by the information provided by Porsche.
1. 997 TT Stock Shifter
2. 997 TT SSK Shifter
3. 997.2 GT3 Stock Shifter
4. 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter. I am assuming here that there is an optional 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter, and that's what Ryan is talking about, is that correct?
2 is 20% shorter than 1.
4 is 20% shorter than 3.
2 is about the same 3. I've driven both stock GT2 and GT3, and those 2 indeed felt similarly to my Turbo SSK.
What this means is, assuming I am correct, the stock GT3 kit is probably still the best to have, as it has short throw AND aluminum bushing.
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Ok, my theory from all that I've read so far; please correct as needed. It seems we are talking about 4 different things:
1. 997 TT Stock Shifter
2. 997 TT SSK Shifter
3. 997.2 GT3 Stock Shifter
4. 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter. I am assuming here that there is an optional 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter, and that's what Ryan is talking about, is that correct?
2 is 20% shorter than 1.
4 is 20% shorter than 3.
2 is about the same 3. I've driven both stock GT2 and GT3, and those 2 indeed felt similarly to my Turbo SSK.
What this means is, assuming I am correct, the stock GT3 kit is probably still the best to have, as it has short throw AND aluminum bushing.
1. 997 TT Stock Shifter
2. 997 TT SSK Shifter
3. 997.2 GT3 Stock Shifter
4. 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter. I am assuming here that there is an optional 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter, and that's what Ryan is talking about, is that correct?
2 is 20% shorter than 1.
4 is 20% shorter than 3.
2 is about the same 3. I've driven both stock GT2 and GT3, and those 2 indeed felt similarly to my Turbo SSK.
What this means is, assuming I am correct, the stock GT3 kit is probably still the best to have, as it has short throw AND aluminum bushing.
If you want to upgrade your 996 or 997 to the Porsche SSK you get this one - http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/X99742498300.html
It appears from the Suncoast description that this part fits ALL 1999 to 2012 Carerra's - TT's GT3's, 996, 997.1, 997.2 - doesn't matter.
Or would I still have to push the clutch in on every shift?
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Ok, my theory from all that I've read so far; please correct as needed. It seems we are talking about 4 different things:
1. 997 TT Stock Shifter
2. 997 TT SSK Shifter
3. 997.2 GT3 Stock Shifter
4. 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter. I am assuming here that there is an optional 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter, and that's what Ryan is talking about, is that correct?
2 is 20% shorter than 1.
4 is 20% shorter than 3.
2 is about the same 3. I've driven both stock GT2 and GT3, and those 2 indeed felt similarly to my Turbo SSK.
What this means is, assuming I am correct, the stock GT3 kit is probably still the best to have, as it has short throw AND aluminum bushing.
1. 997 TT Stock Shifter
2. 997 TT SSK Shifter
3. 997.2 GT3 Stock Shifter
4. 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter. I am assuming here that there is an optional 997.2 GT3 SSK Shifter, and that's what Ryan is talking about, is that correct?
2 is 20% shorter than 1.
4 is 20% shorter than 3.
2 is about the same 3. I've driven both stock GT2 and GT3, and those 2 indeed felt similarly to my Turbo SSK.
What this means is, assuming I am correct, the stock GT3 kit is probably still the best to have, as it has short throw AND aluminum bushing.
1- Stock 997 Shift console (same for sall 997.1-997.2)
2- 997.2 GT3 shift console with the aluminum bushings (not shorter in throw)
3- Short shift kit same for all manual transmission cars (even the 996-986).
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"There are 3 shift consoles...
1- Stock 997 Shift console (same for sall 997.1-997.2)
2- 997.2 GT3 shift console with the aluminum bushings (not shorter in throw)
3- Short shift kit same for all manual transmission cars (even the 996-986).
Ryan: Since you have easy access to all three assemblies could you please post the part # for the part in the picture below. This gage is what holds the shift lever in place while the cable lengths are set. Curious to know if these numbers are different for each console.
Or... as fox hunters would say, we could just call in the dogs, **** on the fire and go to the house.
1- Stock 997 Shift console (same for sall 997.1-997.2)
2- 997.2 GT3 shift console with the aluminum bushings (not shorter in throw)
3- Short shift kit same for all manual transmission cars (even the 996-986).
Ryan: Since you have easy access to all three assemblies could you please post the part # for the part in the picture below. This gage is what holds the shift lever in place while the cable lengths are set. Curious to know if these numbers are different for each console.
Or... as fox hunters would say, we could just call in the dogs, **** on the fire and go to the house.
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1. Does the stock 997.1 GT3 shift console that Clay/twturbo use has aluminum bushing like the 997.2 GT3's shift console?
2. I assume 997.2 GT3 shift console fits 997.1 Turbo?
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am I missing something
when I was using the search engine for ssk stuff I ran across a thread in the 996 forums for a transmission side solution:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t-shifter.html
I am new to the 997 (and getting the itch to mod)so is this not an option ? or just not a popular one?
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t-shifter.html
I am new to the 997 (and getting the itch to mod)so is this not an option ? or just not a popular one?
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