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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by K24F
Right with the idea of no loosing power because heat with big turbos.
But I believe 650whp with vtgs is not possible with pumpgas, all the engines I met, from Rstuning, Sportec, Switzer and Protomotive couldn't exceed 700-750. Crank hp...
Yeah your def right on pump gas. I'm talking about a 100 octane or E85. I have both of those at majority of the pumps here in Vegas. I didn't know we were talking pump as in 91 octane. I would say 580 whp on 91, that's just guessing. Real question is can a vtg kit consistently run in the high 5's low 6's?
 
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Originally Posted by yumaverick
Yeah your def right on pump gas. I'm talking about a 100 octane or E85. I have both of those at majority of the pumps here in Vegas. I didn't know we were talking pump as in 91 octane. I would say 580 whp on 91, that's just guessing. Real question is can a vtg kit consistently run in the high 5's low 6's?
My car consistently runs 5.3-5.4 with 63.5mm vtg's.
 
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My car consistently runs 5.3-5.4 with 63.5mm vtg's.

Wow! That's crazy, thats got to be a record for Vtg's. What fuel?
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Wow! That's crazy, thats got to be a record for Vtg's. What fuel?
That's 100-200Km/h times
 
Old Jan 20, 2013 | 12:42 AM
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Anyone here dare to guess on differences in spool between CMS 68mm vtg's and tial alpha gt3071 (http://www.titanmotorsports.com/tial...30-turbos.html)

And is it true that the Tial setup is cheaper than the 68mm vtg's?
 
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I run the 63,5 protomotive VTGs with extruded hot sides, i think i have the best 60-130 times on the forum using factory turbo housing. Also there is very low evidence for the 68mm CMS VTGs, one member ONLY had the chance to test 60-130:-)ONLY once!!! What about 0-100 ,1/4 mile, 200-300? If those turbos were good CMS should have test their own car and show their performance figures, we've beed asking for year now but the only evidenve is Kercar's ONLY run!!!
 
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Originally Posted by milou
I run the 63,5 protomotive VTGs with extruded hot sides, i think i have the best 60-130 times on the forum using factory turbo housing. Also there is very low evidence for the 68mm CMS VTGs, one member ONLY had the chance to test 60-130:-)ONLY once!!! What about 0-100 ,1/4 mile, 200-300? If those turbos were good CMS should have test their own car and show their performance figures, we've beed asking for year now but the only evidenve is Kercar's ONLY run!!!
What's the price for the proto kit? (their webpage is kind if a joke)
 
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Protomotive is one of the best (if not the best) Porsche tuner in the world, their web page is not good because Todd's marketing is happy customers who bring other. Customers :-)
I paid $2100 plus the extruded hot sided which i did later, i don't remember the cost of the hot sided but that was not much. Contact Todd, hewill be more than happy to help you :-)
 
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Originally Posted by milou
Protomotive is one of the best (if not the best) Porsche tuner in the world, their web page is not good because Todd's marketing is happy customers who bring other. Customers :-)
I paid $2100 plus the extruded hot sided which i did later, i don't remember the cost of the hot sided but that was not much. Contact Todd, hewill be more than happy to help you :-)
I only heard good things about protomotive and Todd answered my question via email swiftly, I still think a improved page with products/services and prices would help them make more $
 
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Originally Posted by yumaverick
Wow! That's crazy, thats got to be a record for Vtg's. What fuel?
It's 100-200 btw,i am using methanol plus pump gas.
 
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Originally Posted by milou
I run the 63,5 protomotive VTGs with extruded hot sides, i think i have the best 60-130 times on the forum using factory turbo housing. Also there is very low evidence for the 68mm CMS VTGs, one member ONLY had the chance to test 60-130:-)ONLY once!!! What about 0-100 ,1/4 mile, 200-300? If those turbos were good CMS should have test their own car and show their performance figures, we've beed asking for year now but the only evidenve is Kercar's ONLY run!!!
Hey milou
What is your best 100-200 time ?
 
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I think 5,1sec
 
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Originally Posted by milou
I think 5,1sec
Hey how you been?

That's a quick time! What's your best 60-130?

I'm guessing if it was a manual it will be 0.2s-0.3s slower?
 
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I agree with the commment of vbox verified 60-130, 0-100 ,1/4 mile times as the dynos only tell part of the story. I will be staying with vtg modded turbos as driveability and 700 hp is sufficient for my needs. I wish we could get more info on CMS 65 and 68 vtg's in regards to real street times as noted above as other members that have other vtg upgrades have provided.
 
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Hello Nick, my best 60-130 was 5,8sec if i remember, it should be on the list :-)

Tiptronics are usually slower, faster only off the line, my car is also convertible which is more heavy
 


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